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Firestore is a NoSQL database, Filestore is a file storage system. If you can discern between "now" and "not" then you can deal with "Firestore" and "Filestore

Firestore is a NoSQL database, Filestore is a file storage system. If you can discern between "now" and "not" then you can deal with "Firestore" and "Filestore"...

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ademup 8y ago
I am a bit embarrassed, but I had to read your comment twice to see that you mentioned two different products in your first sentence. So for me at least, GP comment is accurate.
- chrisjc 8y ago
  I still had to read your comment to notice the difference.
phamilton 8y ago
Except "w" and "t" aren't similar in pronunciation. While "r" varies a lot in pronunciation across languages and regional dialects, there are many languages where the two ("r" and "l") require the same tongue position and a few languages where the two are (overly simplified) equivalent.
pvg 8y ago
'now' and 'not' are almost always trivially identifiable from context, even when misspelled. Firestore and Filestore are not.
klodolph 8y ago
Most people can tell the difference between /naʊ/ and /nɑt/. I mean, just look at them... one ends with a consonant, one doesn't, and the vowels are reasonably different. The difference here is between /faɪl/ and /ˈfaɪəɹ/, which is much more subtle. It comes down to the difference between /l/ and /əɹ/. The [ə] is an uncommon vowel in languages, unstressed, and mostly subsumed by nearby sounds. And worse, more than a billion people on the planet grew up speaking a language which doesn't distinguish the [l] and [ɹ] sounds (they're both approximants with only slight differences in articulation). So when you say "file" or "fire" these people can't distinguish which one you're saying, and when they say it they use something like the tap [ɾ] or retroflex [ɻ] instead, both of which sound ambiguous to native English speakers. Or some non-native speakers will use [l] exclusively, for both /l/ and /ɹ/.
- lazharichir 8y ago
  That's very scientific but most people will read it, not write it. And most people will use one, and not even acknowledge the existance of the other. Sure, they are one-letter away from the other, it's a fact. But to turn this into a problem, well.. no...
  - jfrankamp 8y ago
    The parent gave a phonetic explanation that has nothing to do with writing but rather hearing and speaking about it. For a billion people they aren't one letter away from each other, they're ~ the same. That's the point.
  - klodolph 8y ago
    This is a problem if you work with an international team, especially if you talk over video links which are usually less than ideal.
- jpatokal 8y ago
  FWIW, while Japanese doesn't distinguish L and R, "fire" is transliterated as ファイア faia while "file" is ファイル fairu. So the difference is reasonably clear.
  - klodolph 8y ago
    The difference is only clear after transliteration. The problem is that transliteration is difficult to begin with.

Firestore is a NoSQL database, Filestore is a file storage system. If you can discern between "now" and "not" then you can deal with "Firestore" and "Filestore"...

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ademup 8y ago

I am a bit embarrassed, but I had to read your comment twice to see that you mentioned two different products in your first sentence. So for me at least, GP comment is accurate.

chrisjc 8y ago
I still had to read your comment to notice the difference.

phamilton 8y ago

Except "w" and "t" aren't similar in pronunciation. While "r" varies a lot in pronunciation across languages and regional dialects, there are many languages where the two ("r" and "l") require the same tongue position and a few languages where the two are (overly simplified) equivalent.

pvg 8y ago

'now' and 'not' are almost always trivially identifiable from context, even when misspelled. Firestore and Filestore are not.

klodolph 8y ago

Most people can tell the difference between /naʊ/ and /nɑt/. I mean, just look at them... one ends with a consonant, one doesn't, and the vowels are reasonably different. The difference here is between /faɪl/ and /ˈfaɪəɹ/, which is much more subtle. It comes down to the difference between /l/ and /əɹ/. The [ə] is an uncommon vowel in languages, unstressed, and mostly subsumed by nearby sounds. And worse, more than a billion people on the planet grew up speaking a language which doesn't distinguish the [l] and [ɹ] sounds (they're both approximants with only slight differences in articulation). So when you say "file" or "fire" these people can't distinguish which one you're saying, and when they say it they use something like the tap [ɾ] or retroflex [ɻ] instead, both of which sound ambiguous to native English speakers. Or some non-native speakers will use [l] exclusively, for both /l/ and /ɹ/.

lazharichir 8y ago
That's very scientific but most people will read it, not write it. And most people will use one, and not even acknowledge the existance of the other. Sure, they are one-letter away from the other, it's a fact. But to turn this into a problem, well.. no...
- jfrankamp 8y ago
  The parent gave a phonetic explanation that has nothing to do with writing but rather hearing and speaking about it. For a billion people they aren't one letter away from each other, they're ~ the same. That's the point.
- klodolph 8y ago
  This is a problem if you work with an international team, especially if you talk over video links which are usually less than ideal.
jpatokal 8y ago
FWIW, while Japanese doesn't distinguish L and R, "fire" is transliterated as ファイア faia while "file" is ファイル fairu. So the difference is reasonably clear.
- klodolph 8y ago
  The difference is only clear after transliteration. The problem is that transliteration is difficult to begin with.