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Am I the only one that finds it suspicious that one of these guys would drop a debit card at a heist?
by adreamingsoul 8y ago
Am I the only one that finds it suspicious that one of these guys would drop a debit card at a heist?
- eumoria 8y agoEspecially in the sentence prior to it where it says "the ATM started disgorging cash without either man touching it" What's the bank card for if they just stood there and it spit money out in a timed fashion?
- huac 8y agothe ATM was a Taiwanese ATM, and they were Russian, so they could have had their own Russian debit card.
- adreamingsoul 8y agoYeah, maybe the author of that article was having a bit of leeway with the story or the facts being presented to us are questionable. Either way, it doesn't give me a lot of trust or confidence in the truth of that article.
- neilk 8y agoGood catch. Either it's a misstatement from the author, or law enforcement don't want to reveal how they actually caught them.
- gaius 8y agoWhich implies parallel construction
- neilk 8y agoI think it's parallel construction iff they submit a false line of evidence to a judge. It's not illegal to tell tall tales to the press. Maybe they want to protect an informant. Or, maybe they just want to protect some technical dragnet they've set up, for the time being.
- 21 8y agoPeople are always shocked at the stupid mistakes that big criminal masterminds make. Like the Silk Road guy, "how could he possibly ask on stack overflow using his real name". And so on. There are ten thousands different mistakes that you can make, you need to guard against all of them. And against whatever unknown tech exists. In this story, that dropped bank card turns out to not be that significant. The real breakthrough was identifying another mule through the video surveillance videos, following him to the airport and putting surveillance on the lockers used to store the cash. He was also emptying ATMs apparently with witnesses behind him. This is like a bad movie. One of those witnesses might as well be an off-duty cop who could just pull out his gun right there.
- mv4 8y ago... or the Russian FSB officer forgetting all about VPN and logging on from his office. [1] People make stupid mistakes. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16653671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16653671
- sudouser 8y agoguccifer, lone hacker = russian authorities
- philjohn 8y agoThe criminals have to be lucky continually - the detectives only need to be lucky once.
- greggarious 8y ago>Like the Silk Road guy, "how could he possibly ask on stack overflow using his real name". I always had the impression that Ross suffered from the fatal flaw that he didn't think what he was doing was wrong. He was an evangelical libertarian, and I think he didn't see "not getting caught" as the #1 priority the way a profit oriented criminal would.
- maxerickson 8y ago
- _bxg1 8y agoIt sounded like it was one of the "mules" who dropped the card. Probably just some random guys hired cheaply so those in charge didn't have to go out in person; they probably weren't necessarily smart or careful.
- professorTuring 8y agoWell, you know what they say: - You have to be lucky every time to continue free... I only have to be lucky once to catch you.