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Or you could just give them a 101 on web standards, while giving the main points why you wont support IE6. It almost depends on your clients. ie: Since most

by fady 16y ago

Or you could just give them a 101 on web standards, while giving the main points why you wont support IE6. It almost depends on your clients. ie: Since most MLS programs are still in the dinosaur age, most Realtors use Windows, and good % of them still use IE6(I've seen the analytics), crazy eh? I just wont support it. Update your OS/Browser!

tofumatt 16y ago
Governments and other big organizations REFUSE to update their browsers because they need IE 6 to support legacy software (I used to work in provincial government in Canada: I know). Spouting off about "web standards" (whatever that means to a client) is worthless -- they'll tell you it still looks wrong. Tell them IE6 costs extra and at least your trouble will be worth your while (or you can skip IE6 dev time). It's not unlike paying more to the mechanic who works on vintage Mini Coopers versus new BMW ones; the vintage skill is more specialized and harder work in lessening demand.
- fady 16y ago
  I agree with charging extra. It's a good tactic to see if they understand, as they certainly will understand spending more money, vs supporting web standards.
billybob 16y ago
While we all sympathize with your stance, the author's is more reasonable. For the client, it's really quite simple: it takes some extra hours of work to support IE6, which costs X dollars in labor. For a given site, not having IE6 support will drive away Y dollars in user revenue. If supporting it makes them more money, they should want to. If it loses money, they shouldn't. Making this trade-off explicit with a client is good. And I think it's also reasonable to charge a premium on those hours of IE6 support, since they are extra-frustrating. HOW frustrating it is for you will affect the premium you charge. And for you the tradeoff is more like this: am I willing to lose business with clients because they think I'm unreasonable in my IE6 support fees? Are the dollars lost made up for by happiness at work? As long as you're thinking it through, do what you want.
- fady 16y ago
  good points billybob :) I cannot wait until IE6 is no longer in our minds/OS.
MJR 16y ago
Many business users don't have the option to update they're browser or OS. You're effectively locking them out of your site if you take this stance.

by fady 16y ago

tofumatt 16y ago

Governments and other big organizations REFUSE to update their browsers because they need IE 6 to support legacy software (I used to work in provincial government in Canada: I know). Spouting off about "web standards" (whatever that means to a client) is worthless -- they'll tell you it still looks wrong. Tell them IE6 costs extra and at least your trouble will be worth your while (or you can skip IE6 dev time). It's not unlike paying more to the mechanic who works on vintage Mini Coopers versus new BMW ones; the vintage skill is more specialized and harder work in lessening demand.

fady 16y ago
I agree with charging extra. It's a good tactic to see if they understand, as they certainly will understand spending more money, vs supporting web standards.

billybob 16y ago

While we all sympathize with your stance, the author's is more reasonable. For the client, it's really quite simple: it takes some extra hours of work to support IE6, which costs X dollars in labor. For a given site, not having IE6 support will drive away Y dollars in user revenue. If supporting it makes them more money, they should want to. If it loses money, they shouldn't. Making this trade-off explicit with a client is good. And I think it's also reasonable to charge a premium on those hours of IE6 support, since they are extra-frustrating. HOW frustrating it is for you will affect the premium you charge. And for you the tradeoff is more like this: am I willing to lose business with clients because they think I'm unreasonable in my IE6 support fees? Are the dollars lost made up for by happiness at work? As long as you're thinking it through, do what you want.

fady 16y ago
good points billybob :) I cannot wait until IE6 is no longer in our minds/OS.

MJR 16y ago

Many business users don't have the option to update they're browser or OS. You're effectively locking them out of your site if you take this stance.