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A lot of it is pretty gimmicky right now, granted, but that's not where things are going. The logical conclusion this is all heading towards is really all about

A lot of it is pretty gimmicky right now, granted, but that's not where things are going. The logical conclusion this is all heading towards is really all about coordination of device/thing across the household. Convenience is really at the heart of it, which means for a percentage of the population, it won't ever catch on, because as you say, there's nothing WRONG with a physical key for your house. But we said the same about cars, but how much more convenient is it to just put your hand on the car door handle, and it unlocks and opens for you? How much easier is it to just get into the car and hit a button to start it because the key fob is in your pocket? They're small improvements of quality of life, but added up, and it makes for a better experience moving through the world. Security is a HUGE issue of course, and to a large extent we need to figure it out, but there's good progress being made. And IoT devices aren't (as another comment says) just another outdated Linux box. OTA (over the air) updates are a real thing now, and done securely are as safe as updating your desktop machine at home.

stuntkite 8y ago
Tell that to my sous vide. I've got an IoT litter box too. I'm aware of the problems, but I try to keep the number of extraneous IoT devices down and isolating them on my network. Just because some people are doing it well now, doesn't mean they all do. Most of it is a zigbee+arduino and a gnarly software stack.
remir 8y ago
The question is: how long will these IoT devices receive security fixes?
- bigiain 8y ago
  /me Looks at probably the only two devices from an entire production run from a startup in 2013 that're still getting updated. I built the private ARCH pacman repo for these, and the GPG signed OTA software update mechanism running on the devices. I'm _still_ proud of it. When the startup failed the hosting bills didn't get paid and the domains became "assets for sale" by the liquidator. Even though I'm still updating/securing things for my devices, I have no way to share those updates to the customers we sold em to... :sigh:
  - remir 8y ago
    Yeah, that's what's worrisome about IoT gadgets: what happen when the company goes belly up?

stuntkite 8y ago

Tell that to my sous vide. I've got an IoT litter box too. I'm aware of the problems, but I try to keep the number of extraneous IoT devices down and isolating them on my network. Just because some people are doing it well now, doesn't mean they all do. Most of it is a zigbee+arduino and a gnarly software stack.

remir 8y ago

The question is: how long will these IoT devices receive security fixes?

bigiain 8y ago
/me Looks at probably the only two devices from an entire production run from a startup in 2013 that're still getting updated. I built the private ARCH pacman repo for these, and the GPG signed OTA software update mechanism running on the devices. I'm _still_ proud of it. When the startup failed the hosting bills didn't get paid and the domains became "assets for sale" by the liquidator. Even though I'm still updating/securing things for my devices, I have no way to share those updates to the customers we sold em to... :sigh:
- remir 8y ago
  Yeah, that's what's worrisome about IoT gadgets: what happen when the company goes belly up?