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When is Firefox bringing smooth pinch to zoom to macOS ?

lintroller 8y ago
Are there a substantial number of macOS users using touchscreens? EDIT: I don't know how I forgot about pinch to zoom via the trackpad. While my original question did start me down an interesting rabbit hole of touchscreen MacOS, I 100% agree that a lack of smooth pinch to zoom via the trackpad detracts from the overall user experience.
- msh 8y ago
  You Can pinch to zoom using the mousepad om MacBooks.
  - bwat49 8y ago
    on windows laptops with precision touchpad too
- madjam002 8y ago
  You pinch to zoom on the trackpad, there’s no touchscreen
- AlexandrB 8y ago
  I think he's referring to pinch-to-zoom using the trackpad since there are no Mac computers with touchscreens at all.
- tapoxi 8y ago
  No macOS machines ship with touchscreens, but trackpad gestures are used heavily throughout macOS. I find pinch zooming on the Mac to feel pretty natural.
yoasif_ 8y ago
Watch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688990 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688990
dilap 8y ago
that and lack of bounce-scroll make firefox feel very clunky on mac, sadly
driverdan 8y ago
What is your use case? Do you have poor vision? What's wrong with Cmd+?
rcarmo 8y ago
This is currently _the_ reason I don't use Firefox on macOS for anything other than testing. Oddly, it works on Windows reasonably well. Edit: forgot to mention I had to tweak something to enable it on Win 10. Edit 2: Why the downvotes?
- jbernardo95 8y ago
  Same here.
mi_lk 8y ago
Last time I asked it seems that this is not a top priority for Firefox: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15803281 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15803281
deno 8y ago
This feature is essential for mobile screens, and this is not meant to dismiss your concern, but what do you need pinch-to-zoom for on desktop? Everything is already huge and readable on desktop.
- mort96 8y ago
  macOS doesn't only run on desktops; there are people using it all the way down to the 12" MacBook.
  - deno 8y ago
    Sure, I’ve got a 12.3″ netbook (running Linux), and I don’t see any point in a variable zoom there either. Though I suppose it is 4:3 and hidpi. Still, even at 768p you get a bespoke layout for your device, since this is literally the most common resolution still (seriously). The pinch-to-zoom on mobile is only useful for the very specific case of viewing unoptimized content (mostly desktop sites) in a comparatively smaller viewport. It’s not even useful on mobile if the website is optimized (sometimes for worse, but still). It’s a nice to have, but hardly essential. But people are saying it prevents them from switching, so I am curious why.
  - mixmastamyk 8y ago
    I've always used Ctrl+/- as the ancients did. Does Cmd+ not work?
    - deno 8y ago
      It’s a different type of zoom.
andrewaylett 8y ago
I installed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-zoom/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-z..., it works well.

Are there a substantial number of macOS users using touchscreens? EDIT: I don't know how I forgot about pinch to zoom via the trackpad. While my original question did start me down an interesting rabbit hole of touchscreen MacOS, I 100% agree that a lack of smooth pinch to zoom via the trackpad detracts from the overall user experience.

msh 8y ago
You Can pinch to zoom using the mousepad om MacBooks.
- bwat49 8y ago
  on windows laptops with precision touchpad too
madjam002 8y ago
You pinch to zoom on the trackpad, there’s no touchscreen
AlexandrB 8y ago
I think he's referring to pinch-to-zoom using the trackpad since there are no Mac computers with touchscreens at all.
tapoxi 8y ago
No macOS machines ship with touchscreens, but trackpad gestures are used heavily throughout macOS. I find pinch zooming on the Mac to feel pretty natural.

yoasif_ 8y ago

Watch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688990 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688990

dilap 8y ago

that and lack of bounce-scroll make firefox feel very clunky on mac, sadly

driverdan 8y ago

What is your use case? Do you have poor vision? What's wrong with Cmd+?

rcarmo 8y ago

This is currently _the_ reason I don't use Firefox on macOS for anything other than testing. Oddly, it works on Windows reasonably well. Edit: forgot to mention I had to tweak something to enable it on Win 10. Edit 2: Why the downvotes?

jbernardo95 8y ago
Same here.

mi_lk 8y ago

Last time I asked it seems that this is not a top priority for Firefox: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15803281 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15803281

deno 8y ago

This feature is essential for mobile screens, and this is not meant to dismiss your concern, but what do you need pinch-to-zoom for on desktop? Everything is already huge and readable on desktop.

mort96 8y ago
macOS doesn't only run on desktops; there are people using it all the way down to the 12" MacBook.
- deno 8y ago
  Sure, I’ve got a 12.3″ netbook (running Linux), and I don’t see any point in a variable zoom there either. Though I suppose it is 4:3 and hidpi. Still, even at 768p you get a bespoke layout for your device, since this is literally the most common resolution still (seriously). The pinch-to-zoom on mobile is only useful for the very specific case of viewing unoptimized content (mostly desktop sites) in a comparatively smaller viewport. It’s not even useful on mobile if the website is optimized (sometimes for worse, but still). It’s a nice to have, but hardly essential. But people are saying it prevents them from switching, so I am curious why.
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  I've always used Ctrl+/- as the ancients did. Does Cmd+ not work?
  - deno 8y ago
    It’s a different type of zoom.

andrewaylett 8y ago

I installed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-zoom/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-z..., it works well.