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Why there were never these articles for pizza drivers and other deliveries before?

by moltar 8y ago

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plankers 8y ago
Because the companies they worked for didn't threaten to upend the retail market of an entire nation, I'm guessing.
- extralego 8y ago
  That makes sense in some clearcut ways and a lot of generally concerning ways. I wonder if the sentiment from how it affects peoples’ lives is at play or if it’s just Amazon being so big. It seems similar to Wal-Mart rage, which was mostly the former.
unclebucknasty 8y ago
There were complaints (and lawsuits) about Domino's drivers creating dangerous situations trying to beat their old "30-minutes or it's free" guarantee. Of course, the internet wasn't what it is today, so you wouldn't have seen it on HN. But, I'm not sure that the individual pizza deliverer sees quite the scale or encounters the scenarios of an independent contractor working for Amazon, including less predictable delivery times, variability of package types, etc.
Zigurd 8y ago
Pizza drivers have been widely written about for being notoriously aggressive drivers and for side hustles like pot delivery.
ableal 8y ago
Hey, there were whole books, like this one from 1992: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash I think Neal Stephenson's opening was that the two big items in the economy were software and pizza delivery ...
cafard 8y ago
It was about 1980, I think, before the pizza stores realized that could get delivery drivers to use their own vehicles. (Source: I spent a month or so in the early 1970s delivering pizzas, chicken, etc.) I was disgusted to find out that the stores were having their drivers use their own vehicles. And part of the problem is that pizza delivery used to be a job for a high school student, paid accordingly. There were better jobs to be had once one was out of school. A lot of the better jobs seem to be gone.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  Pizza delivery tends to pay well above minimum wage (before expenses, still definitely better than minimum after expenses) and you usually get paid hourly when you're doing work in the store. If you've got good shifts (weekend evenings, not delivering to a college) pizza delivery can be far more lucrative than waiting tables at an restaurant of similar class.

Why there were never these articles for pizza drivers and other deliveries before?

by moltar 8y ago

Why there were never these articles for pizza drivers and other deliveries before?

deleted 8y ago

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plankers 8y ago

Because the companies they worked for didn't threaten to upend the retail market of an entire nation, I'm guessing.

extralego 8y ago
That makes sense in some clearcut ways and a lot of generally concerning ways. I wonder if the sentiment from how it affects peoples’ lives is at play or if it’s just Amazon being so big. It seems similar to Wal-Mart rage, which was mostly the former.

unclebucknasty 8y ago

There were complaints (and lawsuits) about Domino's drivers creating dangerous situations trying to beat their old "30-minutes or it's free" guarantee. Of course, the internet wasn't what it is today, so you wouldn't have seen it on HN. But, I'm not sure that the individual pizza deliverer sees quite the scale or encounters the scenarios of an independent contractor working for Amazon, including less predictable delivery times, variability of package types, etc.

Zigurd 8y ago

Pizza drivers have been widely written about for being notoriously aggressive drivers and for side hustles like pot delivery.

ableal 8y ago

Hey, there were whole books, like this one from 1992: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash I think Neal Stephenson's opening was that the two big items in the economy were software and pizza delivery ...

cafard 8y ago

It was about 1980, I think, before the pizza stores realized that could get delivery drivers to use their own vehicles. (Source: I spent a month or so in the early 1970s delivering pizzas, chicken, etc.) I was disgusted to find out that the stores were having their drivers use their own vehicles. And part of the problem is that pizza delivery used to be a job for a high school student, paid accordingly. There were better jobs to be had once one was out of school. A lot of the better jobs seem to be gone.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
Pizza delivery tends to pay well above minimum wage (before expenses, still definitely better than minimum after expenses) and you usually get paid hourly when you're doing work in the store. If you've got good shifts (weekend evenings, not delivering to a college) pizza delivery can be far more lucrative than waiting tables at an restaurant of similar class.