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If you buy something at a counter, there is no social expectation that you tip (bartenders are the sole exception, but just give them a dollar not a percentage.

by JackCh 8y ago

If you buy something at a counter, there is no social expectation that you tip (bartenders are the sole exception, but just give them a dollar not a percentage.) Nor for takeout, but you should definitely tip for delivery (those guys get a raw deal anyway, their pay sucks and they're almost always putting miles on their personal vehicle. Tip them with cash when possible, to make sure they get to keep it...)

aeontech 8y ago
Giving bartenders a dollar no matter the order amount is not cool, really. That’s how you turn invisible to them the next time you want to order a drink ;)
- baddox 8y ago
  Hopefully GP meant a dollar per drink. That seems to be the norm.
  - walru 8y ago
    If you're headed to a craft establishment, $2 is the norm now. (aka a drink that has 4-10 ingredients, not a vodka/soda)
    - sincerely 8y ago
      Personally if the drink is sub-10$, I tip $1.
      - walru 8y ago
        Then you're not going to 'craft' establishments.
        sincerely 8y ago
        Maybe I'm not. Could you link an example of one? Would you tip more than 1$ on, say, a $6 drink there?
        walru 8y ago
        You wouldn't be paying $6 for a 'craft' style cocktail anywhere in the US. A 'craft' cocktail usually has 4-10 ingredients and a garnish that compliments the flavor - usually through your orthonasal senses. It's not a vodka soda or a gin and tonic. It's a Fish House Punch or a Jungle Bird or a Champs Elysees or any number of amazing cocktails that exist in the world.
    - JackCh 8y ago
      I suppose that's where the disconnect is. I only order beers or shots of whisky. One dollar per drink keeps the bartenders attentive in my experience.
- 40four 8y ago
  I disagree. I tip a dollar per drink no matter what it is. It's no more than 30 seconds of work to pour/ open a beer, maybe 60 seconds for a mixed drink? Then I walk away. Transaction/ service complete. Unlike a server who attends to you for the duration of a meal, while you are also sitting there occupying table space of other paying customers. Most people run tabs on plastic nowadays, so how's the bartender supposed to even know what they are earning per drink? I prefer to pay in cash & tip dollars as I go, & i find most bartenders are more than happy to get them & continue good service when they see paper coming their way on every transaction.
  - aeontech 8y ago
    Sure, that’s reasonable. I just see people who order a round of 6 drinks and then throw a single dollar in, at some places.
smileysteve 8y ago
> Tip them with cash when possible, to make sure they get to keep it...) Nothing like trying to help income inequality than to promote progressive income tax evasion.
- JackCh 8y ago
  Facilitating tax evasion is one consideration (although trust me, delivery people fall into a very low tax bracket anyway...) But another consideration is the number of employers who try to keep tips for themselves. It's hard to know which businesses do this, so it's safer to just tip with cash.
listenallyall 8y ago
> If you buy something at a counter, there is no social expectation that you tip In the USA, plenty of counter-service restaurants/shops have tip jars. Further, many counter-service food outlets have added a tipping option to their credit card process, usually with 15% as the minimum.
- sincerely 8y ago
  Those tip jars are basically a "if you don't want to deal with coinage or $1 dollar bills, we'll take it off your hand" option. You won't be thought poorly of for not tipping at a cafe or counter-service restaurant the same way you would be for not tipping a regular waiter.
  - listenallyall 8y ago
    Thanks Starbucks, for taking those dollar bills off my hands so I don't have to deal with them! How convenient of you! The homeless guy outside will also perform the same service, by the way, but I wouldn't be "supporting a living wage" if I gave him the money instead of your baristas.
    - JackCh 8y ago
      Starbucks isn't taking anything; they are receiving from people who give willingly. If you choose to give them your money, you've got nobody but yourself to blame. In the case of tip jars at counters you can't even blame social pressure, participating in such a scheme is completely voluntary and most people do not.
      - listenallyall 8y ago
        Your argument is reductive. ALL tips are given willingly. Starbucks could, at any moment, bar individual stores from placing a tip jar at their registers. Just like McDonald's. No tips, no issue, no should I or shouldn't I?
        8y ago

by JackCh 8y ago

aeontech 8y ago

Giving bartenders a dollar no matter the order amount is not cool, really. That’s how you turn invisible to them the next time you want to order a drink ;)

baddox 8y ago
Hopefully GP meant a dollar per drink. That seems to be the norm.
- walru 8y ago
  If you're headed to a craft establishment, $2 is the norm now. (aka a drink that has 4-10 ingredients, not a vodka/soda)
  - sincerely 8y ago
    Personally if the drink is sub-10$, I tip $1.
    - walru 8y ago
      Then you're not going to 'craft' establishments.
      - sincerely 8y ago
        Maybe I'm not. Could you link an example of one? Would you tip more than 1$ on, say, a $6 drink there?
        walru 8y ago
        You wouldn't be paying $6 for a 'craft' style cocktail anywhere in the US. A 'craft' cocktail usually has 4-10 ingredients and a garnish that compliments the flavor - usually through your orthonasal senses. It's not a vodka soda or a gin and tonic. It's a Fish House Punch or a Jungle Bird or a Champs Elysees or any number of amazing cocktails that exist in the world.
  - JackCh 8y ago
    I suppose that's where the disconnect is. I only order beers or shots of whisky. One dollar per drink keeps the bartenders attentive in my experience.
40four 8y ago
I disagree. I tip a dollar per drink no matter what it is. It's no more than 30 seconds of work to pour/ open a beer, maybe 60 seconds for a mixed drink? Then I walk away. Transaction/ service complete. Unlike a server who attends to you for the duration of a meal, while you are also sitting there occupying table space of other paying customers. Most people run tabs on plastic nowadays, so how's the bartender supposed to even know what they are earning per drink? I prefer to pay in cash & tip dollars as I go, & i find most bartenders are more than happy to get them & continue good service when they see paper coming their way on every transaction.
- aeontech 8y ago
  Sure, that’s reasonable. I just see people who order a round of 6 drinks and then throw a single dollar in, at some places.

smileysteve 8y ago

> Tip them with cash when possible, to make sure they get to keep it...) Nothing like trying to help income inequality than to promote progressive income tax evasion.

JackCh 8y ago
Facilitating tax evasion is one consideration (although trust me, delivery people fall into a very low tax bracket anyway...) But another consideration is the number of employers who try to keep tips for themselves. It's hard to know which businesses do this, so it's safer to just tip with cash.

listenallyall 8y ago

> If you buy something at a counter, there is no social expectation that you tip In the USA, plenty of counter-service restaurants/shops have tip jars. Further, many counter-service food outlets have added a tipping option to their credit card process, usually with 15% as the minimum.

sincerely 8y ago
Those tip jars are basically a "if you don't want to deal with coinage or $1 dollar bills, we'll take it off your hand" option. You won't be thought poorly of for not tipping at a cafe or counter-service restaurant the same way you would be for not tipping a regular waiter.
- listenallyall 8y ago
  Thanks Starbucks, for taking those dollar bills off my hands so I don't have to deal with them! How convenient of you! The homeless guy outside will also perform the same service, by the way, but I wouldn't be "supporting a living wage" if I gave him the money instead of your baristas.
  - JackCh 8y ago
    Starbucks isn't taking anything; they are receiving from people who give willingly. If you choose to give them your money, you've got nobody but yourself to blame. In the case of tip jars at counters you can't even blame social pressure, participating in such a scheme is completely voluntary and most people do not.
    - listenallyall 8y ago
      Your argument is reductive. ALL tips are given willingly. Starbucks could, at any moment, bar individual stores from placing a tip jar at their registers. Just like McDonald's. No tips, no issue, no should I or shouldn't I?
      - 8y ago