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You're ignoring how most users need things in front of their face. Most users are not privacy or security "aware" in any manner. Putting it in the UI or activel

You're ignoring how most users need things in front of their face. Most users are not privacy or security "aware" in any manner. Putting it in the UI or actively promoting these services is beneficial to the common web user. And if it fails, it's at least worth it to learn why it failed. Was the UI bad? Did it not promote the service in the right way? Did users not understand the purpose of the tool? I think the juice is worth the squeeze.

tomc1985 8y ago
And then everyone suffers through even more intrusions on their workflow because Johnny Newbie doesn't care
ccnafr 8y ago
Where in the official announcement did they say they're putting Monitor in the official UI? Firefox Monitor is just a page on the official Mozilla website.
- seba_dos1 8y ago
  Where in the official announcement did they say that?
  - Arnavion 8y ago
    >Visitors to the Firefox Monitor website >The site will offer recommendations Now, the screenshot doesn't have a URL in the address bar, suggesting it might be a built-in special page. But it also has a generic "Page title" in the tab title, so it looks like a modified stock image rather than an actual UI screenshot. The screenshot on Troy Hunt's blog does show "https://www.mozilla.org/firefoxmonitor" https://www.mozilla.org/firefoxmonitor", but it's otherwise the same screenshot with the same generic "Page title", so it's probably equally fake. (I tried to look for the actual bugzilla bug for this for more info, but didn't find anything.)
    - sciurus 8y ago
      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463301 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463301 describes the study that is being run to determine the best design for incorporating Firefox Monitor into the browser UI. (Disclosure: Although I work at Mozilla, I have not worked on Firefox Monitor)
      - Arnavion 8y ago
        Thanks. So it looks like it is a website ( https://monitor.firefox.com/ https://monitor.firefox.com/ ), and the browser will pop up a dialog that navigates users to it.
        kadenshep 8y ago
        I mean, what wording confused this concept specifically?
bradknowles 8y ago
1. Put it on the web first. 2. Get it working well with UI, UX, etc.... 3. Then integrate it into the browser. Seems like a totally logical flow to me.
- sobani 8y ago
  But the browser is part of the UI/UX. When Firefox warns you that you're (possibly) pwned when you browse to a website or try to log in, then you can't get around combining step 2 and 3. Or when Firefox compares your password database with HIBP, you can't get around combining step 2 and 3.

tomc1985 8y ago

And then everyone suffers through even more intrusions on their workflow because Johnny Newbie doesn't care

ccnafr 8y ago

Where in the official announcement did they say they're putting Monitor in the official UI? Firefox Monitor is just a page on the official Mozilla website.

seba_dos1 8y ago
Where in the official announcement did they say that?
- Arnavion 8y ago
  >Visitors to the Firefox Monitor website >The site will offer recommendations Now, the screenshot doesn't have a URL in the address bar, suggesting it might be a built-in special page. But it also has a generic "Page title" in the tab title, so it looks like a modified stock image rather than an actual UI screenshot. The screenshot on Troy Hunt's blog does show "https://www.mozilla.org/firefoxmonitor" https://www.mozilla.org/firefoxmonitor", but it's otherwise the same screenshot with the same generic "Page title", so it's probably equally fake. (I tried to look for the actual bugzilla bug for this for more info, but didn't find anything.)
  - sciurus 8y ago
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463301 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463301 describes the study that is being run to determine the best design for incorporating Firefox Monitor into the browser UI. (Disclosure: Although I work at Mozilla, I have not worked on Firefox Monitor)
    - Arnavion 8y ago
      Thanks. So it looks like it is a website ( https://monitor.firefox.com/ https://monitor.firefox.com/ ), and the browser will pop up a dialog that navigates users to it.
      - kadenshep 8y ago
        I mean, what wording confused this concept specifically?

bradknowles 8y ago

1. Put it on the web first. 2. Get it working well with UI, UX, etc.... 3. Then integrate it into the browser. Seems like a totally logical flow to me.

sobani 8y ago
But the browser is part of the UI/UX. When Firefox warns you that you're (possibly) pwned when you browse to a website or try to log in, then you can't get around combining step 2 and 3. Or when Firefox compares your password database with HIBP, you can't get around combining step 2 and 3.