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Yes and no. No because you're clearly concerned about it so there is hope (Dick managers generally either don't care how they are or actively see it as a good
by Tyrannosaurs 16y ago
Yes and no.
No because you're clearly concerned about it so there is hope (Dick managers generally either don't care how they are or actively see it as a good thing), but yes because you seem not to trust them (you admit to wanting to know what they're doing).
The nature of trust is not trusting them to get on with their work eight hours a day to a format you think appropriate, it's trusting them to deliver what's been asked on time and to know how they want to work to achieve that.
You need to accept that there isn't a universal working pattern for programmers. Some are in at 8am, work diligently all day then head off. Others slope in late, are inefficient for large parts of the day but pull it out of the hat when it matters.
There is little point in asking programmer B why he can't work steadily like programmer A because quite simply he can't, that's not how his mind works. It may be that the inefficient time is how he mulls over the problem, it may be that he needs the rush of the approaching deadline, it maybe something else entirely, but these things are rarely as simple as Person X does this so it will work for Person Y.
Think of a programmer as a black box. You define inputs and outputs, they define what goes on inside the box. Your job is to give them the best inputs you can, monitor the outputs and generally leave the rest alone.
In terms of your current style a few questions you might want to ask yourself:
* What is it that means that you want to see what they're doing all the time?
* Why do they want to hide their monitors from you?
* What would you do if you saw them doing something completely non-work related?
* Have they done anything in the past which suggests that they're not committed to the project?
* How does your boss treat you and how do you feel about it?
I suspect the answers might help you identify any Dick traits you might have.
P.S. In terms of the guy craning - yes, you need to address that as you're likely liable for his working environment. But explain that to him and say he can have his cube how he likes so long as it's basically safe.
- unexpected 16y agoI think it bothers me because they're probably the two least productive employees we have. I want to address this issue - the first step to me seems to be "well, what do they do all day?"
- ulysses 16y agoHow you deal with those two employees will impact the rest of your team. Do you want the rest of your team to learn that it's important to be productive? Or would you rather teach them that it's most important to be seen to be working straight through for eight hours?
- unexpected 16y agoAgain, we're okay with facebook/gchat/whatever. The rest of our employees are not engaged 100% of the time, and we're okay with that. This is not about spying on them, or making sure they have their nose to the grindstone for 8 straight hours. We have flexible hours, allow telecommuting, etc. From my perspective, it's a cultural thing - we have tried to foster a two-way culture of openness and communication. We have 70 employees - 68 of which are okay with our environment of trust. What makes those two think they're special?
- jbarham 16y ago> What makes those two think they're special? Are they ex-military and therefore trained to react violently when people sneak up behind them? ;) EDIT: My ex-CEO tells a story of a former employee and Vietnam vet who warned him not to surprise him as his fighting reflexes might kick in, so it apparently can happen in real life.
- protomyth 16y agoIt happens with victims of assault also. Some people really, really need their back to the wall and places that don't allow that affect their productivity / comfort level.
- Tyrannosaurs 16y agoA fair enough question but can I suggest that you're less passive about it and speak to them? I've had incidents in my team where there are people I thought weren't productive who were genuinely engaged in a million minor support tasks I never knew about. But in any case, talking to them like adults rather than spying on them is the way forward.