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Did you even read the article? The new information is that these specific 8 buildings are specifically noted within NSA documents as the 8 locations within AT&T

Did you even read the article? The new information is that these specific 8 buildings are specifically noted within NSA documents as the 8 locations within AT&T's network that the NSA utilizes. I don't know what The Intercept expects anyone to do with that information, but that is new information.

zer00eyz 8y ago
To OP's point this isn't some shocking revelation. Do people think that this is the full picture? That were even close to having any sort of understanding of what really happens? To your point however this tidbit does give a good excuse to re raise the issue. Why are we allowed to spy on ourselves?
reaperducer 8y ago
I admit, I didn't read the full article because it's only barely readable on my device, but if my scroll bar is accurate, I did read about 70% of it. But my point stands. We've known that these specific buildings are the key hubs in the network for close to a century. And that they're hardened against nuclear attack, etc... Maybe I was too deep into the phreaking scene in the early days, but I thought this was common knowledge in technology circles.
- txcwpalpha 8y ago
  You're still missing the point. > We've known that these specific buildings are the key hubs in the network for close to a century. And that they're hardened against nuclear attack, etc... Yes, it's been known that these specific buildings were key to AT&T's infrastructure. But any speculation that these specific buildings (as opposed to other specific buildings) were also key to NSA projects was just an assumption. The new information, which comes from released NSA memos and documents, shows that these specific 8 buildings are key to the NSA, meaning it's not just based on assumption anymore. There's some other new information in there from the memos/documents, too. You really should actually read the article before mounting your high horse and spouting off nonsense criticism about it.
cirgue 8y ago
This is kind of a no-duh though. If you're the NSA, of course you're going to set up shop at peering facilities, there isn't anywhere else that makes practical sense.
hsienmaneja 8y ago
Releasing such info furthers subversive causes, as did disrupting active missions, having the Oahu tunnel shut down, and informing criminals and adversaries of our activities. A privileged electrical technician torches your establishment to the ground and says he should be thanked for forcing you to rebuild stronger.

zer00eyz 8y ago

To OP's point this isn't some shocking revelation. Do people think that this is the full picture? That were even close to having any sort of understanding of what really happens? To your point however this tidbit does give a good excuse to re raise the issue. Why are we allowed to spy on ourselves?

reaperducer 8y ago

I admit, I didn't read the full article because it's only barely readable on my device, but if my scroll bar is accurate, I did read about 70% of it. But my point stands. We've known that these specific buildings are the key hubs in the network for close to a century. And that they're hardened against nuclear attack, etc... Maybe I was too deep into the phreaking scene in the early days, but I thought this was common knowledge in technology circles.

txcwpalpha 8y ago
You're still missing the point. > We've known that these specific buildings are the key hubs in the network for close to a century. And that they're hardened against nuclear attack, etc... Yes, it's been known that these specific buildings were key to AT&T's infrastructure. But any speculation that these specific buildings (as opposed to other specific buildings) were also key to NSA projects was just an assumption. The new information, which comes from released NSA memos and documents, shows that these specific 8 buildings are key to the NSA, meaning it's not just based on assumption anymore. There's some other new information in there from the memos/documents, too. You really should actually read the article before mounting your high horse and spouting off nonsense criticism about it.

cirgue 8y ago

This is kind of a no-duh though. If you're the NSA, of course you're going to set up shop at peering facilities, there isn't anywhere else that makes practical sense.

hsienmaneja 8y ago

Releasing such info furthers subversive causes, as did disrupting active missions, having the Oahu tunnel shut down, and informing criminals and adversaries of our activities. A privileged electrical technician torches your establishment to the ground and says he should be thanked for forcing you to rebuild stronger.