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It's pretty clear the PC market went into decline as the smart phone market ate up their sales and I find it highly doubtful a faster harddrive was going to ove

It's pretty clear the PC market went into decline as the smart phone market ate up their sales and I find it highly doubtful a faster harddrive was going to overcome the convenience factor of the smartphone.

jacobush 8y ago
Maybe but it was still stupid marketing too. Demanding all Core i* CPUs to be bundled with SSD would have been a brilliant move. Not enough to turn the ship around, but steering in the right direction.
PaulHoule 8y ago
The smart phone has an SSD in it and that is why the smartphone has many convenience factors. For instance, a netbook with an SSD can ride in your backpack and play music to bluetooth headphones, just like a phone. If either of those had an HDD you would have trouble with the music skipping caused by the vibrations of your footsteps. Probably you'd trash the HDD before long. The fast responsiveness you expect from a phone also comes out of the use of SSD. Computers with HDD frequently "go out to lunch" and that's a convenience negative for a computer (if it doesn't have an SSD).
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Spooky23 8y ago
Sure it would. Where I work, we’ve done piecemeal (15%) replacement of PCs since 2008. That saved us something like $100M. Why? There was no reason to move past Windows 7 and almost no performance reason the get new gear. SSD everywhere would have pushed down the component costs earlier and cost justified the move 18-24 months earlier. The justification there for me wouldn’t have been performance either — it would have been servicing costs on the PCs as SSD has a lower failure rate, and the power consumption is better on new PCs. PCs are like the work trucks that contractors or facility guys use. If it can tow a mower and doesn’t break, you give zero shits about it, other than the $$$.

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It's pretty clear the PC market went into decline as the smart phone market ate up their sales and I find it highly doubtful a faster harddrive was going to ove

by grigjd3 8y ago

jacobush 8y ago
Maybe but it was still stupid marketing too. Demanding all Core i* CPUs to be bundled with SSD would have been a brilliant move. Not enough to turn the ship around, but steering in the right direction.
PaulHoule 8y ago
The smart phone has an SSD in it and that is why the smartphone has many convenience factors. For instance, a netbook with an SSD can ride in your backpack and play music to bluetooth headphones, just like a phone. If either of those had an HDD you would have trouble with the music skipping caused by the vibrations of your footsteps. Probably you'd trash the HDD before long. The fast responsiveness you expect from a phone also comes out of the use of SSD. Computers with HDD frequently "go out to lunch" and that's a convenience negative for a computer (if it doesn't have an SSD).
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Spooky23 8y ago
Sure it would. Where I work, we’ve done piecemeal (15%) replacement of PCs since 2008. That saved us something like $100M. Why? There was no reason to move past Windows 7 and almost no performance reason the get new gear. SSD everywhere would have pushed down the component costs earlier and cost justified the move 18-24 months earlier. The justification there for me wouldn’t have been performance either — it would have been servicing costs on the PCs as SSD has a lower failure rate, and the power consumption is better on new PCs. PCs are like the work trucks that contractors or facility guys use. If it can tow a mower and doesn’t break, you give zero shits about it, other than the $$$.