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I wouldn't say it's trivial at all. I'd consider it the most important piece of knowledge there is on the subject. You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. Y

I wouldn't say it's trivial at all. I'd consider it the most important piece of knowledge there is on the subject. You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. You can be on a low carb diet and gain weight. And if you don't understand the basic principles of why that is, you'll think that losing weight is impossible. If you believe that keto is the only way to lose weight and you gained weight while following it, you're going to quit. You need to understand why various diet plans work. Ultimately, they all work because they help you eat fewer calories than you're burning. If you follow the diet exactly but still consume more calories than you're burning, you will gain weight. If you don't understand that fact, you've already lost. I can't think of a single more important fact to understand than that.

po9her 8y ago
> You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. You can be on a low carb diet and gain weight. No you can't I'm in a Ketogenic diet 6 months now (lost 83 pounds so far) and although i'm eating the same amount of calories (and even more) as i did before i started i'm losing weight non stop, no exercise , no intermittent fasting, NO-THING! You clearly have no idea what you're talking about
- freehunter 8y ago
  So you're saying that you can consume 5000 calories per day, only burn 2000, and still lose weight. Have you considered submitting this to a scientific journal? This changes our entire understanding of the laws of physics. Faster-than-light travel actually sounds possible now. Or you're lying, and also making anyone who did gain weight on the keto diet feel worse about themselves and give up on losing weight altogether.
  - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
    It doesn't have to be lying. It could just be "ignorant, sure of themselves, and loudmouthed". Seriously, the accusation of lying is not one you should make lightly, no matter how mistaken the position being presented.
    - freehunter 8y ago
      True, but I'd still consider that to be lying to themselves, rather than lying to us. If the story is true, the likely reality is they're not counting their calories so they don't realize they ended up eating fewer calories than they were before. They just think they're eating more because they didn't realize how many they were consuming before. I don't make the accusation of lying lightly. We're dealing with a new account making wild claims that break the laws of physics and could have serious impact on someone's health, claims made in the face of all available science. Whether they believe it to be true or not, it's a lie.
      - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
        "It's a lie" can mean "it is not true" (at least in one of it's meanings) "They are lying" means that they know it's not true. I'm not saying that po9her is right. But I too often see people use "you're lying" to mean "you're wrong". Even if they are blatantly wrong, the two are not equivalent.
Delmania 8y ago
> You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. Yes, but is it fat or protein? If an adult human male weights 203 lbs at 25% body fat undergoes a transformation and goes to 250 lbs at 10% body fat, I think you'd be hard pressed to call him overweight. I think the NFL would like to have a talk with him.
- freehunter 8y ago
  If you manage to gain 50lbs of muscle just from keto and nothing else, yes you should be in the NFL. But you should realize gaining muscle is actually difficult, and you should realize that it's basically impossible to lose weight and add substantial muscle at the same time since one requires a calorie deficit and the other requires a calorie surplus. Possible, but extremely extremely difficult and time consuming. There's a reason professional athletes go through bulking/cutting cycles. No one is accidentally putting on 50lbs of muscle just by switching to keto.

po9her 8y ago

> You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. You can be on a low carb diet and gain weight. No you can't I'm in a Ketogenic diet 6 months now (lost 83 pounds so far) and although i'm eating the same amount of calories (and even more) as i did before i started i'm losing weight non stop, no exercise , no intermittent fasting, NO-THING! You clearly have no idea what you're talking about

freehunter 8y ago
So you're saying that you can consume 5000 calories per day, only burn 2000, and still lose weight. Have you considered submitting this to a scientific journal? This changes our entire understanding of the laws of physics. Faster-than-light travel actually sounds possible now. Or you're lying, and also making anyone who did gain weight on the keto diet feel worse about themselves and give up on losing weight altogether.
- AnimalMuppet 8y ago
  It doesn't have to be lying. It could just be "ignorant, sure of themselves, and loudmouthed". Seriously, the accusation of lying is not one you should make lightly, no matter how mistaken the position being presented.
  - freehunter 8y ago
    True, but I'd still consider that to be lying to themselves, rather than lying to us. If the story is true, the likely reality is they're not counting their calories so they don't realize they ended up eating fewer calories than they were before. They just think they're eating more because they didn't realize how many they were consuming before. I don't make the accusation of lying lightly. We're dealing with a new account making wild claims that break the laws of physics and could have serious impact on someone's health, claims made in the face of all available science. Whether they believe it to be true or not, it's a lie.
    - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
      "It's a lie" can mean "it is not true" (at least in one of it's meanings) "They are lying" means that they know it's not true. I'm not saying that po9her is right. But I too often see people use "you're lying" to mean "you're wrong". Even if they are blatantly wrong, the two are not equivalent.

Delmania 8y ago

> You can be on a keto diet and gain weight. Yes, but is it fat or protein? If an adult human male weights 203 lbs at 25% body fat undergoes a transformation and goes to 250 lbs at 10% body fat, I think you'd be hard pressed to call him overweight. I think the NFL would like to have a talk with him.

freehunter 8y ago
If you manage to gain 50lbs of muscle just from keto and nothing else, yes you should be in the NFL. But you should realize gaining muscle is actually difficult, and you should realize that it's basically impossible to lose weight and add substantial muscle at the same time since one requires a calorie deficit and the other requires a calorie surplus. Possible, but extremely extremely difficult and time consuming. There's a reason professional athletes go through bulking/cutting cycles. No one is accidentally putting on 50lbs of muscle just by switching to keto.