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I wouldn't overestimate the impact of smartphones. It's just that PCs (both in desktop and laptops) don't need upgrades anymore from year to year. You can use y

by gsich 8y ago

I wouldn't overestimate the impact of smartphones. It's just that PCs (both in desktop and laptops) don't need upgrades anymore from year to year. You can use your PC from 2012 (Intel i5-2xxx if you remember), possible even farther back and you'd still be fine for almost all tasks. Gamers and other high-performance tasks are a niche. The biggest performance gain for these machines is a SSD, not a new PC. The same will happen to smartphones. You can already see it. Manufacturers trying so hard to invent features nobody needs, just to have an excuse to buy a new device.

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
That's the point. The so-called "post-PC era" has never arrived. Personally I don't know any adult who doesn't own a computer. We no longer upgrade so often but we use them on a daily basis. Pretty much anyone doing any kind of white-collar work will use a PC (that includes Macs...) Your needs outside of the work environment will vary, but people are still not throwing their laptops away just because they use their phones more often.
- oblio 8y ago
  The question is: do new adults (think 18-24 year olds) buy desktops or laptops?
  - apetresc 8y ago
    At least one, yes? There's no university student without one, and there's no white-collar worker without one. Literally nobody is typing up their 10-page essay on their phone.
    - oblio 8y ago
      Tablets + keyboards.
      - michaelmrose 8y ago
        Tablets remain truly mediocre devices, in the case of Android running a mediocre os. - garbage multi tasking - slightly laggy typing - no real ability for multiple apps to work on the same data -10" is still a tiny screen and almost as unwieldy as a small laptop 7" is too tiny yet still not pocket size. Since a tablet usually does not have by definition a cellular modem it can't replace your phone plus the cameras and microphone normally blow. I find the idea that most people are using a tablet in place of a real computer laughable.
  - gsich 8y ago
    if gaming is an issue: desktop. Laptop in the other case. Or both, you can get cheap laptops for 300€ which will work just fine because of the reasons in the parent.
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- georgebarnett 8y ago
  Perhaps the post PC era did not arrive in your immediate bubble, however I assure you it happened. There are whole parts of non first world societies where laptops are not a thing and everything is done on phones and tablets.
smacktoward 8y ago
Heck, I'm a gamer, and I'm still using a rig with an i5-2500K at its core. I've upgraded the graphics card twice since I put the machine together, and put in an SSD to use as a boot drive, but I've never felt a burning need to upgrade the CPU. That's just not where the bottlenecks are anymore, even for games.
octorian 8y ago
> The same will happen to smartphones. You can already see it. Manufacturers trying so hard to invent features nobody needs, just to have an excuse to buy a new device. Unfortunately, smartphones exist in this world where everyone has far tighter control over hardware/software integration. So, its much harder to run the latest software on an old smartphone than it is to run the latest software on an old PC. Of course its not because the hardware is necessarily incapable, but more because everyone assumes they can get away with new market/platform/support rules "because mobile."
- gsich 8y ago
  As long as the apps from the appstore are installable, this is a non-issue for non-technical users.

by gsich 8y ago

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

That's the point. The so-called "post-PC era" has never arrived. Personally I don't know any adult who doesn't own a computer. We no longer upgrade so often but we use them on a daily basis. Pretty much anyone doing any kind of white-collar work will use a PC (that includes Macs...) Your needs outside of the work environment will vary, but people are still not throwing their laptops away just because they use their phones more often.

oblio 8y ago
The question is: do new adults (think 18-24 year olds) buy desktops or laptops?
- apetresc 8y ago
  At least one, yes? There's no university student without one, and there's no white-collar worker without one. Literally nobody is typing up their 10-page essay on their phone.
  - oblio 8y ago
    Tablets + keyboards.
    - michaelmrose 8y ago
      Tablets remain truly mediocre devices, in the case of Android running a mediocre os. - garbage multi tasking - slightly laggy typing - no real ability for multiple apps to work on the same data -10" is still a tiny screen and almost as unwieldy as a small laptop 7" is too tiny yet still not pocket size. Since a tablet usually does not have by definition a cellular modem it can't replace your phone plus the cameras and microphone normally blow. I find the idea that most people are using a tablet in place of a real computer laughable.
- gsich 8y ago
  if gaming is an issue: desktop. Laptop in the other case. Or both, you can get cheap laptops for 300€ which will work just fine because of the reasons in the parent.
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georgebarnett 8y ago
Perhaps the post PC era did not arrive in your immediate bubble, however I assure you it happened. There are whole parts of non first world societies where laptops are not a thing and everything is done on phones and tablets.

smacktoward 8y ago

Heck, I'm a gamer, and I'm still using a rig with an i5-2500K at its core. I've upgraded the graphics card twice since I put the machine together, and put in an SSD to use as a boot drive, but I've never felt a burning need to upgrade the CPU. That's just not where the bottlenecks are anymore, even for games.

octorian 8y ago

> The same will happen to smartphones. You can already see it. Manufacturers trying so hard to invent features nobody needs, just to have an excuse to buy a new device. Unfortunately, smartphones exist in this world where everyone has far tighter control over hardware/software integration. So, its much harder to run the latest software on an old smartphone than it is to run the latest software on an old PC. Of course its not because the hardware is necessarily incapable, but more because everyone assumes they can get away with new market/platform/support rules "because mobile."

gsich 8y ago
As long as the apps from the appstore are installable, this is a non-issue for non-technical users.