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And store the encrypted passwords where?

by pps43 8y ago

dewey 8y ago
As they are encrypted you can save them anywhere you want, and even distribute them to a bunch of different services where they won't be inaccessible if one service goes down.
- pps43 8y ago
  That's exactly what the blockchain is doing, distributing the data across multiple devices.
  - dewey 8y ago
    Exactly, so why do you need it then?
geofft 8y ago
Anywhere. Put them on an HN comment, log in and enable showdead. Stick them in a git repo, revert the commit, and make a pull request to a popular project. Steganographically encode them into the next popular internet meme. Make an account on hashbang.sh and save it to disk. If you have access to the blockchain, you already have access to a million more reliable data storage options, some reasonable, some not. Blockchain is a distributed consensus tool, not an anti-censorship tool. If you can't reach other random storage services, why do you think you can reach the blockchain?
- pps43 8y ago
  YCombinator can go out of business and bring HN down, not all internet memes survive long, your disk can be lost in a fire, etc. I'm not saying blockchain is better, just that it's at least reasonable. Already distributed and can be expected to survive longer than individual companies.
  - loup-vaillant 8y ago
    What are the odds that Dropbox and HN and a dozen popular internet memes of your choice and your local computer and your phone and your blog and… …go all down before you can react? Seriously, if you need a secure backup, a couple instances, geographically separated, are more than enough.
vmateixeira 8y ago
My machines?
- pps43 8y ago
  Now you have to think about backup, transporting across borders, etc.
  - loup-vaillant 8y ago
    Here's how you transport over borders. Works with plain text as well as encrypted data. Step 1: upload your data on a server somewhere. Your mail server, Dropbox, GitHub, your blog, your virtual server with SSH access… Step 2: cross the border. Step 3: download the data.
dozzie 8y ago
Ever heard of this silly thing called distributed hash tables? And BitTorrent protocol that is currently the most popular implementation, which sets up a whole DHT/P2P network for every share? There, as one example.

And store the encrypted passwords where?

by pps43 8y ago

And store the encrypted passwords where?

As they are encrypted you can save them anywhere you want, and even distribute them to a bunch of different services where they won't be inaccessible if one service goes down.

pps43 8y ago
That's exactly what the blockchain is doing, distributing the data across multiple devices.
- dewey 8y ago
  Exactly, so why do you need it then?

geofft 8y ago

Anywhere. Put them on an HN comment, log in and enable showdead. Stick them in a git repo, revert the commit, and make a pull request to a popular project. Steganographically encode them into the next popular internet meme. Make an account on hashbang.sh and save it to disk. If you have access to the blockchain, you already have access to a million more reliable data storage options, some reasonable, some not. Blockchain is a distributed consensus tool, not an anti-censorship tool. If you can't reach other random storage services, why do you think you can reach the blockchain?

pps43 8y ago
YCombinator can go out of business and bring HN down, not all internet memes survive long, your disk can be lost in a fire, etc. I'm not saying blockchain is better, just that it's at least reasonable. Already distributed and can be expected to survive longer than individual companies.
- loup-vaillant 8y ago
  What are the odds that Dropbox and HN and a dozen popular internet memes of your choice and your local computer and your phone and your blog and… …go all down before you can react? Seriously, if you need a secure backup, a couple instances, geographically separated, are more than enough.

vmateixeira 8y ago

My machines?

pps43 8y ago
Now you have to think about backup, transporting across borders, etc.
- loup-vaillant 8y ago
  Here's how you transport over borders. Works with plain text as well as encrypted data. Step 1: upload your data on a server somewhere. Your mail server, Dropbox, GitHub, your blog, your virtual server with SSH access… Step 2: cross the border. Step 3: download the data.

dozzie 8y ago

Ever heard of this silly thing called distributed hash tables? And BitTorrent protocol that is currently the most popular implementation, which sets up a whole DHT/P2P network for every share? There, as one example.