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There’s a lot here to take apart. First of all, you’re a citizen of the United States. You can be a /resident/ of a state, but citizenship is conferred by the

There’s a lot here to take apart. First of all, you’re a citizen of the United States. You can be a /resident/ of a state, but citizenship is conferred by the federal government, not the states. Second, you’re not paying the tax, the customer is. Third, it is absolutely not taxation without representation, which was a charge the British colonists made against the government in England because they had no representation in parliament. You, however, have several representatives at various levels of government, as do your customers paying taxes. You might argue that your representation isn’t good, and depending on the state I’d argue that too, but you absolutely are not taxed without representation now in 2018. Taxation does not entitle you to vote in elections. If I drive through Ohio and buy some gas, do I get to swing by again in November for the election? I don’t know the relevant legal philosophy, but states can absolutely levy taxes in other states and it’s ridiculous to suggest that paying them entitles you to voting rights.

LyndsySimon 8y ago
The issue here isn’t so much the tax, as the compliance costs. Before this ruling I could set up a small online store and ship to anywhere in the US, filing only a tax return in my home state (if at all). Now, I have to register as a foreign entity in 48 states, each of which can cost hundreds of dollars plus hundreds of dollars yearly. This increases the cost of opening an online retail business by orders of magnitude.
jecxjo 8y ago
As soon as the vendor is required to collect this tax, and is responsible for it to be paid, I'd consider it the vendor's tax. SD stopped making it the consumer's tax when they lifted the burden on them to pay it. If the vendor doesn't collect it the vendor still owes it because SD says making their citizens pay use tax doesn't work. When you drive through Ohio you are using services paid by Ohio citizens. The gas you buy had to drive on state roads, cleared of snow by state plows, and sold to you by people who use other state services. Since you don't live there and are just using their services I think it's perfectly reasonable to be taxed. But what if you never stepped foot in Ohio? What if sent a box in the mail, using the FedEx who charges you money for their services, pays taxes in the states they physically exist, pay for vehicle licenses and property taxes and income tax. All of which comes out of the fee I'm paying them. Has SD gotten enough money from me yet? Still haven't actually used any services that aren't consumed by the one thing I'm doing and paying for, shipping a box The employees that work in Ohio get to vote, get to have protections by Ohio government, get access to services. The businesses get protections too. And yet I, the vendor, who lives in a completely different state, and never uses a single service of theirs beyond those required to ship a box (odd that there is no extra taxes on sending a letter USPS) is then required to do ohio's job of collecting taxes, and pay any that I miss collecting or am charged a fine. Sounds to me like Ohio is requiring me to fill a job position I did not previously need or else pay a fine. That is all money that now goes to someone else because Ohio says so. Could have sworn that is taxation. And as for voting rights, I think everyone is disregarding the fact that employees vote. If a referendum came up that would make their job harder or even make it impossible, the employees get to vote on it. Not saying they wouldn't all vote the way the company wants, but their are votes cast for defending their livelihood. Since my company has no physical presence I don't have that same representation. Yet I'm again still required to do everything an in-state business is required. I had none of these issues when my business only existed in the state I live in. And where I and all my employees vote.

LyndsySimon 8y ago

The issue here isn’t so much the tax, as the compliance costs. Before this ruling I could set up a small online store and ship to anywhere in the US, filing only a tax return in my home state (if at all). Now, I have to register as a foreign entity in 48 states, each of which can cost hundreds of dollars plus hundreds of dollars yearly. This increases the cost of opening an online retail business by orders of magnitude.

jecxjo 8y ago

As soon as the vendor is required to collect this tax, and is responsible for it to be paid, I'd consider it the vendor's tax. SD stopped making it the consumer's tax when they lifted the burden on them to pay it. If the vendor doesn't collect it the vendor still owes it because SD says making their citizens pay use tax doesn't work. When you drive through Ohio you are using services paid by Ohio citizens. The gas you buy had to drive on state roads, cleared of snow by state plows, and sold to you by people who use other state services. Since you don't live there and are just using their services I think it's perfectly reasonable to be taxed. But what if you never stepped foot in Ohio? What if sent a box in the mail, using the FedEx who charges you money for their services, pays taxes in the states they physically exist, pay for vehicle licenses and property taxes and income tax. All of which comes out of the fee I'm paying them. Has SD gotten enough money from me yet? Still haven't actually used any services that aren't consumed by the one thing I'm doing and paying for, shipping a box The employees that work in Ohio get to vote, get to have protections by Ohio government, get access to services. The businesses get protections too. And yet I, the vendor, who lives in a completely different state, and never uses a single service of theirs beyond those required to ship a box (odd that there is no extra taxes on sending a letter USPS) is then required to do ohio's job of collecting taxes, and pay any that I miss collecting or am charged a fine. Sounds to me like Ohio is requiring me to fill a job position I did not previously need or else pay a fine. That is all money that now goes to someone else because Ohio says so. Could have sworn that is taxation. And as for voting rights, I think everyone is disregarding the fact that employees vote. If a referendum came up that would make their job harder or even make it impossible, the employees get to vote on it. Not saying they wouldn't all vote the way the company wants, but their are votes cast for defending their livelihood. Since my company has no physical presence I don't have that same representation. Yet I'm again still required to do everything an in-state business is required. I had none of these issues when my business only existed in the state I live in. And where I and all my employees vote.