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My opinion is basically that since businesses use machines to target, communicate, and attempt to influence me, they have no right to deny my ability to do the
by dvdhnt 8y ago
My opinion is basically that since businesses use machines to target, communicate, and attempt to influence me, they have no right to deny my ability to do the same, unless it harms their service e.g. DDoS.
- AznHisoka 8y agoExactly. Want to block non-humans from automatically accessing your content? OK, then i will block non-humans from deciding what ads to show to me. Want to show me an ad? Have an actual human being manually pick the ad in real time and deliver it to me!
- merinowool 8y agoAm I the only one who thinks human non-human divide is conceptually the same as coloured non-coloured divide in the past? I think those who exercise such questions to allow or block access to their services are morally corrupt.
- notduncansmith 8y agoI don’t think we’re There Yet. Once we build machines that can seek out and acquire the resources necessary for their own growth/healing/reproduction, whose rights are worth fighting for, it’ll be easier to make that case. Anyways, that wouldn’t help here. No machines’ rights are being infringed by preventing you from scraping the web. If said self-reproducing machines were denied access to websites on the grounds that it would be considered “scraping”, I’d be at the front of the march to legislate against that kind of discriminatory behavior; but that’s not what we have here. I do think that, given the obvious potential for both value and harm in scraping, it might make sense to provide licenses for demonstrably non-harmful scrapers.
- merinowool 8y agoI think the same think privileged people though about other when created divides. Are you really trying to make a case for discrimination to continue? I wonder what robots of the future would have thought about that comment.
- moarcoffee 8y ago> Am I the only one... Yes, because you’re comparing racism and slavery to not being able to use your computer to scrape data from websites. Edit: don’t ask for opinions if you can’t handle some of them.
- merinowool 8y agoI am comparing denial of right s on the basis of characteristic that subject can't change.
- moarcoffee 8y agoThis is so myopic that I’m going to start a “sh%t HN says” Tumblr and make it the first post.
- tomhoward 8y agoIt's been done [1]. Yes it's an awful comment but it's one person, and it's been downvoted and flagged to death, which also says something about what "HN says". [1] https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says