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So you think the current copyright system in the US is perfect, then? You’re part of the problem if you support overaggressive copyright enforcement. It’s my de

So you think the current copyright system in the US is perfect, then? You’re part of the problem if you support overaggressive copyright enforcement. It’s my device, I paid for it, I should be allowed to do WHATEVER the hell I want with it.

untog 8y ago
I'm not sure what about the OPs post would make you think they consider the copyright system to be perfect. They merely suggested that there is nothing stopping you creating a DRM-free console.
- freeflight 8y ago
  "Nothing stopping you from creating your own" is quite a trivialization of how difficult it actually is to break into the, rather entrenched, video game console market. Having to compete with companies that haven't just been around and known for decades, but have massive resources and synergies due to their sheer size, is a pretty daunting task, and that's just the hardware side. Trying to convince major developers, and especially publishers, to get on board with such a project is also no small feat, you'd pretty have to convince publishers to do a 180° on how they've handled a lot of things so far because publishers are also known to be quite big fans of draconian copyright laws.
  - InitialLastName 8y ago
    >"Nothing stopping you from creating your own" is quite a trivialization of how difficult it actually is to break into the, rather entrenched, video game console market. No, "nothing stopping you from selling your own" would be a trivialization (because there are things). It's easy enough (~20 hours of effort, including research) to build a computer, install Linux, and start playing DRM free games. If you want to distribute it, that's another story.
pjmlp 8y ago
I guess that is why Ouya, GP32, GP2 are such a big market success.
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > I guess that is why Ouya, GP32, GP2 are such a big market success. The Pandora > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) was at least in Germany, where the main developer Michael Mrozek lives, somewhat popular in nerd circles despite the high price.
cpfohl 8y ago
But it's not your right to reduce other people's enjoyment of it by cheating. It's also not your right to steal software to run on it. This argument is correct, but only addresses about a quarter of the interesting issues at hand.

untog 8y ago

I'm not sure what about the OPs post would make you think they consider the copyright system to be perfect. They merely suggested that there is nothing stopping you creating a DRM-free console.

freeflight 8y ago
"Nothing stopping you from creating your own" is quite a trivialization of how difficult it actually is to break into the, rather entrenched, video game console market. Having to compete with companies that haven't just been around and known for decades, but have massive resources and synergies due to their sheer size, is a pretty daunting task, and that's just the hardware side. Trying to convince major developers, and especially publishers, to get on board with such a project is also no small feat, you'd pretty have to convince publishers to do a 180° on how they've handled a lot of things so far because publishers are also known to be quite big fans of draconian copyright laws.
- InitialLastName 8y ago
  >"Nothing stopping you from creating your own" is quite a trivialization of how difficult it actually is to break into the, rather entrenched, video game console market. No, "nothing stopping you from selling your own" would be a trivialization (because there are things). It's easy enough (~20 hours of effort, including research) to build a computer, install Linux, and start playing DRM free games. If you want to distribute it, that's another story.

pjmlp 8y ago

I guess that is why Ouya, GP32, GP2 are such a big market success.

wolfgke 8y ago
> I guess that is why Ouya, GP32, GP2 are such a big market success. The Pandora > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) was at least in Germany, where the main developer Michael Mrozek lives, somewhat popular in nerd circles despite the high price.

cpfohl 8y ago

But it's not your right to reduce other people's enjoyment of it by cheating. It's also not your right to steal software to run on it. This argument is correct, but only addresses about a quarter of the interesting issues at hand.