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If you can find it, listen to the original version of the Dire Straits album "Dire Straits" -- Then listen to it with volume normalization. Dynamic range is

If you can find it, listen to the original version of the Dire Straits album "Dire Straits" -- Then listen to it with volume normalization. Dynamic range is good...

jtbayly 8y ago
But this isn't changing the dynamic range. It's not normalizing the song on it's own. It's normalizing the with regard to the rest of the musical catalogue, which simply amounts to turning the volume down a certain amount on the whole song. So, to repeat, that changes noting about the dynamic range of the song. In fact, if music producers stopped trying to make their music so loud, there would be more room for dynamic range in the music. The goal of this site seems to be that they wouldn't mix a whole song to be top volume, since it won't play any louder most places anyway. This in turn could lead to the return of using more dynamic range. I have my doubts that this will actually happen.
- fredsanford 8y ago
  it is limiting the high end volume which.... changes the dynamic range. [0] Listen to a good recording of something like The William Tell Overture and you should notice that the quiet parts are less than 10% or so of volume of the loud parts. Listening to that Dire Straits album really illustrates the point. 0: https://www.emusician.com/gear/brickwall-limiting https://www.emusician.com/gear/brickwall-limiting
  - hrnnnnnn 8y ago
    Loudness normalisation and limiting are different things. Limiting is about turning down the music when it peaks above a certain threshold measured in decibels, and loudness normalisation is about normalising music to its perceived loudness, measured in LUFS.
cup-of-tea 8y ago
Excessive dynamic range compression wasn't done at that time and many records were well mastered. Other good examples are Pink Floyd and even Led Zeppelin records. Not generally considered audiophile quality, but they just sound great. Back then these records were made to be played back on big hi-hi systems. Big speakers that filled the room and were placed far away from the listener. This is not a standard setup today. You're more likely to see music played from wimpy TV speakers, headphones or earbuds.

If you can find it, listen to the original version of the Dire Straits album "Dire Straits" -- Then listen to it with volume normalization. Dynamic range is good...

jtbayly 8y ago

But this isn't changing the dynamic range. It's not normalizing the song on it's own. It's normalizing the with regard to the rest of the musical catalogue, which simply amounts to turning the volume down a certain amount on the whole song. So, to repeat, that changes noting about the dynamic range of the song. In fact, if music producers stopped trying to make their music so loud, there would be more room for dynamic range in the music. The goal of this site seems to be that they wouldn't mix a whole song to be top volume, since it won't play any louder most places anyway. This in turn could lead to the return of using more dynamic range. I have my doubts that this will actually happen.

fredsanford 8y ago
it is limiting the high end volume which.... changes the dynamic range. [0] Listen to a good recording of something like The William Tell Overture and you should notice that the quiet parts are less than 10% or so of volume of the loud parts. Listening to that Dire Straits album really illustrates the point. 0: https://www.emusician.com/gear/brickwall-limiting https://www.emusician.com/gear/brickwall-limiting
- hrnnnnnn 8y ago
  Loudness normalisation and limiting are different things. Limiting is about turning down the music when it peaks above a certain threshold measured in decibels, and loudness normalisation is about normalising music to its perceived loudness, measured in LUFS.

cup-of-tea 8y ago

Excessive dynamic range compression wasn't done at that time and many records were well mastered. Other good examples are Pink Floyd and even Led Zeppelin records. Not generally considered audiophile quality, but they just sound great. Back then these records were made to be played back on big hi-hi systems. Big speakers that filled the room and were placed far away from the listener. This is not a standard setup today. You're more likely to see music played from wimpy TV speakers, headphones or earbuds.