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Hmm, seems like there may have been a reason for the old traditions after all. The Economist's point is weird/wrong for another reason. Immigrant women have ba
by repolfx 8y ago
Hmm, seems like there may have been a reason for the old traditions after all.
The Economist's point is weird/wrong for another reason. Immigrant women have babies too. They can't be both looking after their own children and looking after other people's simultaneously. Expensive childcare doesn't seem like the kind of problem you can permanently fix by just allowing tons of immigration from third world countries.
- friedman23 8y ago>They can't be both looking after their own children and looking after other people's simultaneously Why not?
- eloff 8y agoI've typically seen in the developing world that the nanny looks after her kids as well, but families tend to prefer childless nannies for obvious reasons. Very often in such cases the host family will help with some of the child related expenses of the nanny. Much like some kind of communal family.
- rock_hard 8y agoI guess you’d be surprised by reality buddy, because that’s exactly how my nanny did it when I grew up...she took care of her two kids and me at the same time...it’s like people who have three kids, totally possible and being done everywhere.
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- repolfx 8y agoSure, but we're not talking about an additional place here or there. When people say childcare they tend to mean professional daycare, no? That's very much people bottlenecked. But if immigrants are more fertile than the locals, which they usually are at least for a while, then if the Economist was right about immigrants being well employed in construction jobs and hairdressers such, you'd expect an sudden influx to put more pressure on childcare, not less.
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago> When people say childcare they tend to mean professional daycare There is a professional daycare on my block. I see the lady who runs it at our corner coffee shop from time to time. Her kids were in there with everyone else’s. (This was a point she marketed.) She’s an immigrant from Kenya.
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- dvdhnt 8y ago> When people say childcare they tend to mean professional daycare, no? Negative. As a child, of a poor family, my childcare was some combination of aunts, cousins, and family friends. As a parent, while in the military, we often used professional childcare in the form of a daycare. Now, as an engineering, our nanny watches our children along with her own children. So, personally, childcare has rarely referred to professional childcare.
- kbenson 8y ago> When people say childcare they tend to mean professional daycare, no? No, not necessarily. It's more about availability. Even if you do assume it's "professional" childcare in some manner, it's one of the easiest small businesses to start. The regulations are strict, but the requirements are cheap beyond location and food. My wife ran a daycare out of our house for a short period when our children were small, as it was more cost effective than having two children in daycare elsewhere.
- cobookman 8y agoThe Israel kibuttz model would worK for many.
- notdeniro 8y agoSo you support constant work without maternity leave? I mean you know immigrants go through pregnancy and recovery, right? Interesting to see how the rights people usually fight for become unimportant when it benefits you. I hope your nanny got at least minimum wage too.
- brandonmenc 8y ago> They can't be both looking after their own children and looking after other people's simultaneously. The lady who lives and babysits across the street from my sister does exactly this.