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What doesn't make sense? FileZilla is a bad actor who is trying to infect people's computers with malware. Download sites are bad actors who are trying to infec

by rspeer 8y ago

What doesn't make sense? FileZilla is a bad actor who is trying to infect people's computers with malware. Download sites are bad actors who are trying to infect people's computers with malware. People should have all the information they need to avoid malware, so they can make good decisions, such as installing WinSCP from Ninite instead of installing FileZilla by any method. You keep denying that trustworthy free software exists, and yet when anyone points out that it does, you change the topic to something fraud-ridden like download sites. People who cheat on tests believe everyone is cheating on tests. I do not care one bit for your business model. Please go out of business ASAP.

ksk 8y ago
>Such as installing WinSCP from Ninite instead of installing FileZilla by any method. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP#Advertisements_in_installer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP#Advertisements_in_insta... >You keep denying that trustworthy free software exists, and yet when anyone points out that it does, you change the topic. People who cheat on tests believe everyone is cheating on tests. You are unable to understand how "trustworthy free software" vendors make money. Rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking.
- rspeer 8y ago
  It would have been a bad idea to use WinSCP in 2014 also. Yet you'll notice they backed off and have had years to repair their reputation, instead of getting caught a second time and trying to cover it up like FileZilla is doing. I understand how your kind of free software makes money perfectly well. It's not trustworthy in the slightest. You don't need to make money to make a program that copies files. And if you bundle your free software with a scam, you're not making money as a software developer anyway, you're making money as a scammer.
  - ksk 8y ago
    You seem very confused. FileZilla wasn't "caught". They openly say that they bundle crapware. Sorry, this is not a productive conversation. Goodbye.
    - dang 8y ago
      You've crossed into incivility in this thread. That's not allowed on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else (or everyone else) may be. If you could please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and not do it again, we'd appreciate that.
      - ksk 8y ago
        While its obvious that I have done no such thing, I find it rather interesting that people calling other people "scum" are not reminded of "civility".
        dang 8y ago
        The likeliest explanation for that is always the simplest one: we didn't see it. Obviously, though, breaking the rules isn't justified by other people breaking the rules. It always feels like the other person started it, so one could use that to justify anything. Re your comments, personal swipes like "you seem very confused", "you are unable to understand", "rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking" are certainly uncivil and violate the site guidelines. We ban accounts that make a habit of this, so please (re-)read the rules and use the site as intended from now on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        ksk 8y ago
        I don't expect you to look at 100% of the comments, but its a bit like citing someone for jaywalking but letting the murder escape. Sure cite the jaywalker, but after you've found the murder. >Re your comments, personal swipes like "you seem very confused", "you are unable to understand", "rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking" are certainly uncivil and violate the site guidelines. There are several flaws in your interpretation, but I don't wish to convince you otherwise.
- luma 8y ago
  The post which you've replied to raised a question which you've chosen not to answer. Are you at all connected to the FileZilla project?
  - ksk 8y ago
    I choose to ignore irrelevant questions to avoid derailing the conversation.
    - rhizome 8y ago
      Even way down here where the core of the conversation isn't happening? How would a "no" derail it?
      - ksk 8y ago
        Its the same reason that I don't think I can force you to answer any question I want. Its a point of principle.
        luma 8y ago
        It's a point of you dishonestly misrepresenting your own interest in FileZilla installing malware for any users still foolish enough to download it.
        ksk 8y ago
        Yawn.

by rspeer 8y ago

ksk 8y ago

>Such as installing WinSCP from Ninite instead of installing FileZilla by any method. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP#Advertisements_in_installer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP#Advertisements_in_insta... >You keep denying that trustworthy free software exists, and yet when anyone points out that it does, you change the topic. People who cheat on tests believe everyone is cheating on tests. You are unable to understand how "trustworthy free software" vendors make money. Rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking.

rspeer 8y ago
It would have been a bad idea to use WinSCP in 2014 also. Yet you'll notice they backed off and have had years to repair their reputation, instead of getting caught a second time and trying to cover it up like FileZilla is doing. I understand how your kind of free software makes money perfectly well. It's not trustworthy in the slightest. You don't need to make money to make a program that copies files. And if you bundle your free software with a scam, you're not making money as a software developer anyway, you're making money as a scammer.
- ksk 8y ago
  You seem very confused. FileZilla wasn't "caught". They openly say that they bundle crapware. Sorry, this is not a productive conversation. Goodbye.
  - dang 8y ago
    You've crossed into incivility in this thread. That's not allowed on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else (or everyone else) may be. If you could please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and not do it again, we'd appreciate that.
    - ksk 8y ago
      While its obvious that I have done no such thing, I find it rather interesting that people calling other people "scum" are not reminded of "civility".
      - dang 8y ago
        The likeliest explanation for that is always the simplest one: we didn't see it. Obviously, though, breaking the rules isn't justified by other people breaking the rules. It always feels like the other person started it, so one could use that to justify anything. Re your comments, personal swipes like "you seem very confused", "you are unable to understand", "rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking" are certainly uncivil and violate the site guidelines. We ban accounts that make a habit of this, so please (re-)read the rules and use the site as intended from now on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        ksk 8y ago
        I don't expect you to look at 100% of the comments, but its a bit like citing someone for jaywalking but letting the murder escape. Sure cite the jaywalker, but after you've found the murder. >Re your comments, personal swipes like "you seem very confused", "you are unable to understand", "rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking" are certainly uncivil and violate the site guidelines. There are several flaws in your interpretation, but I don't wish to convince you otherwise.
luma 8y ago
The post which you've replied to raised a question which you've chosen not to answer. Are you at all connected to the FileZilla project?
- ksk 8y ago
  I choose to ignore irrelevant questions to avoid derailing the conversation.
  - rhizome 8y ago
    Even way down here where the core of the conversation isn't happening? How would a "no" derail it?
    - ksk 8y ago
      Its the same reason that I don't think I can force you to answer any question I want. Its a point of principle.
      - luma 8y ago
        It's a point of you dishonestly misrepresenting your own interest in FileZilla installing malware for any users still foolish enough to download it.
        ksk 8y ago
        Yawn.