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It would be very un-Apple-like to backtrack on USB (much as I'd like them to), but reintroducing HDMI and SD wouldn't be a backtrack. The difference is that on
by mortenjorck 8y ago
It would be very un-Apple-like to backtrack on USB (much as I'd like them to), but reintroducing HDMI and SD wouldn't be a backtrack.
The difference is that one could reasonably assert that the industry will eventually migrate away from USB-A (even if the timeframe for that is highly debatable). But there is no case at all to be made for moving away from HDMI or SD – the idea of using USB-C ports instead of HDMI on TVs and projectors is only in its earliest proposals, and there is nothing on the camera industry's horizon to replace SD cards with any kind of USB-C compatible media.
USB-A may be superseded (if only technically) by USB-C, but HDMI and SD have no current successor.
- sumedh 8y agoWhy cant USB-C be a successor for HDMI?
- chx 8y agoCable length is an issue. A fifty feet HDMI cable at Monoprice is less than 25 USD. A similar USB 3.0 cable needs to be active and costs 100 USD. My mind boggles at the thought of a 50ft USB C cable.
- tonyedgecombe 8y agoI can't imagine many people are buying fifty feet cables.
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- chx 8y agoThe only reason HDMI still exists over the vastly superior DisplayPort is the cable length. The DP standard, if memory serves, limits the cable to 3 metres / 10 feet so the max cheap passive cable you can buy on Amazon is obviously 15 feet. Meanwhile, the HDMI standard has no cable length limit but in practice 50 ft is the longest passive you can buy.
- freehunter 8y agoI'd say the only reason HDMI still exists is because everything has HDMI built in. The best standard doesn't always win, the most prolific one does.
- chx 8y agoWhen DP came out in 2008 it already supported 4K and HDMI didn't.
- freehunter 8y agoI don't see how that's in any way an argument against "the best standards don't always win".
- jakobegger 8y agoEvery conference room with a projector on the ceiling needs a long cable.
- sumedh 8y agoGood point, although I assume the price would fall in the coming years.
- chx 8y ago10gbps, 60W USB C-USB C cables are not even available at more than 6ft. It's too complicated a standard for that. You'd need fiber and USB-fiber extenders steadfastly refuse to come down in price even at 5gbps and I haven't even seen a 10/20gbps.
- sumedh 8y agoInteresting, I did not know it would be complicated.
- chx 8y agoUSB C cables are built from micro coax assemblies https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1057/0966/files/JUCX01-Structures.jpg?15272078458549038882 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1057/0966/files/JUCX01-Str... in order to make even this short distance viable.
- Marsymars 8y agoA USB Type-C to HDMI cable using HDMI alt mode works with a passive cable (and supports ARC, CEC, etc.), but is limited to HDMI 1.4b.
- chx 8y agoThis discussion was about replacing HDMI with USB C -- I presumed on both ends. Switching USB C to HDMI alt mode and then running a HDMI cable is not replacing HDMI with USB C. Let's not even mention I am unaware of any product switching USB C to HDMI alt mode. All the available USB C to HDMI converters are using DisplayPort alt mode and an active converter, packed in one IC.