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Completely agree. The narrative being presented is simply not logical to believe. Based on the narrative, this guy works for the cia, highly likely he knows cp

Completely agree. The narrative being presented is simply not logical to believe. Based on the narrative, this guy works for the cia, highly likely he knows cp is illegal, obtains cp, knows how to use encryption but then uses a weak password. Not using a weak password is like security 101 first 5 minutes of the first class type of knowledge. Im sure im not the only one buying this story.

Cacti 8y ago
You’re making an assumption, that it was weak. What we know is that they found the password on his phone. It could have been quite strong.
- bb88 8y ago
  I think the question I have is did the guy have a password manager on his phone?
  - Cacti 8y ago
    This is a big blank spot in the complaint, which tells me they broke or got around the encryption somehow. If it was in cleartext they would have said so because it would have added to their case.
  - DINKDINK 8y ago
    The question we need to answer is: Was the incriminating data planted or not. Having a password manager on his phone is tangental to answer that question. After the computer and phone left his custody, either device could have had data modified. Unless he's got his data pinned into the Bitcoin blockchain, it's a pretty hard to show that it was planted. If it wasn't planted then it's really just about how the key was revealed. P.S. The description does seem to describe a password manager: "Specifically, the Cellphone Examination identified various passwords that had been input by the user of the Cellphone to, for example, access the phone, applications on the phone, and/or certain websites."
    - jumper_F00BA2 8y ago
      I think the level of security provided by passwords or password managers is probably of little import, when confronted by a nation-state actor, and indeed a top tier nation-state actor, with nigh unlimited resources, and an axe to grind over a serious grudge. We have wi-fi routers being used to passively see through walls, with enough fidelity to read lips and record finger movement. Put someone under a microscope long enough, and every single password they use will reveal itself. Whether locked behind a manager app (sooner or later you'll snag the master password for it) or directly entered.
      - ben_w 8y ago
        > We have wi-fi routers being used to passively see through walls, with enough fidelity to read lips and record finger movement. That’s terrifying. I had no idea that was possible despite it being published years ago and trying to keep track of technology like that: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7384744/ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7384744/
squarefoot 8y ago
I also wonder: if I was going to work for the CIA, wouldn't they triple check everything about what I do before hiring me? Whether the child porn evidence was real or planted, the agency doesn't seem to gain much credibility here.
- jonnybgood 8y ago
  During a security clearance investigation your computer and other personal effects aren't searched.

Cacti 8y ago

You’re making an assumption, that it was weak. What we know is that they found the password on his phone. It could have been quite strong.

bb88 8y ago
I think the question I have is did the guy have a password manager on his phone?
- Cacti 8y ago
  This is a big blank spot in the complaint, which tells me they broke or got around the encryption somehow. If it was in cleartext they would have said so because it would have added to their case.
- DINKDINK 8y ago
  The question we need to answer is: Was the incriminating data planted or not. Having a password manager on his phone is tangental to answer that question. After the computer and phone left his custody, either device could have had data modified. Unless he's got his data pinned into the Bitcoin blockchain, it's a pretty hard to show that it was planted. If it wasn't planted then it's really just about how the key was revealed. P.S. The description does seem to describe a password manager: "Specifically, the Cellphone Examination identified various passwords that had been input by the user of the Cellphone to, for example, access the phone, applications on the phone, and/or certain websites."
  - jumper_F00BA2 8y ago
    I think the level of security provided by passwords or password managers is probably of little import, when confronted by a nation-state actor, and indeed a top tier nation-state actor, with nigh unlimited resources, and an axe to grind over a serious grudge. We have wi-fi routers being used to passively see through walls, with enough fidelity to read lips and record finger movement. Put someone under a microscope long enough, and every single password they use will reveal itself. Whether locked behind a manager app (sooner or later you'll snag the master password for it) or directly entered.
    - ben_w 8y ago
      > We have wi-fi routers being used to passively see through walls, with enough fidelity to read lips and record finger movement. That’s terrifying. I had no idea that was possible despite it being published years ago and trying to keep track of technology like that: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7384744/ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7384744/

squarefoot 8y ago

I also wonder: if I was going to work for the CIA, wouldn't they triple check everything about what I do before hiring me? Whether the child porn evidence was real or planted, the agency doesn't seem to gain much credibility here.

jonnybgood 8y ago
During a security clearance investigation your computer and other personal effects aren't searched.