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I'm part of LTM and starting to build up irc.com, along with founding kiwiirc.com. I can say that London Trust Media does not impact freenode in any way - they

I'm part of LTM and starting to build up irc.com, along with founding kiwiirc.com. I can say that London Trust Media does not impact freenode in any way - they purely fund it to keep it running so that they can focus on other areas. As for the issues with IRC - I agree. Major improvements has happened already but it has a long way to go and that's why were putting money into it to boost these efforts. We have open source projects and fund open source projects, each one focussing on what the project communities and developers believe in. What really is needed IMO is a place that can work on these things full time, prove that IRC can in fact work at scale and solve these problems, then others may hopefully follow. We fully intend on growing the IRC community as a whole - not just ourselves.

wencha 8y ago
I’d rather see irc dead than turned into something else
- Twirrim 8y ago
  How could any of this kill IRC? It's an open standard.
  - matthberg 8y ago
    Embrace Extend Extinguish, the root of Electronic Evils. Hopefully it doesn't happen with IRC as it has with other lovely parts of electronic history. Microsoft was the origin of the term with their browser and OS products of old, yet it has been unfortunately more and more relevant with Google, particularly email and android openness (gmail only features and Google play services, respectively).
    - spookthesunset 8y ago
      That didn't really answer the question that was asked. IRC is an open protocol. Whats your fear? There are some seriously paranoid people on HN these days, and it is rather disenchanting to have to sift through all the negativity. Failure to embrace new things and new ways of doing things is a surefire way to irrelevancy.
      - kuschku 8y ago
        London Trust Media owns the networks where almost all users are, and either funds and closely works with most client developers, or directly employees those. That’s the fear. The IRC protocol isn’t great, nor worthy of protection. The users, the community are. If tomorrow freenode and snoonet went down, IRC would be forever changed.
    - orf 8y ago
      It's being extingushed right now because nobody is extending or embracing it.
  - jlgaddis 8y ago
    RSS is an open standard too, but Google effectively killed it.
    - Twirrim 8y ago
      They really didn't. Most websites that publish articles in any form still have RSS feeds, and there are plenty of feed readers out there that work.
- rasengan 8y ago
  “This is the kind of divisiveness that has paralyzed our country.” - Richard Stallman [1] [1] http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109 http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109

wencha 8y ago

I’d rather see irc dead than turned into something else

Twirrim 8y ago
How could any of this kill IRC? It's an open standard.
- matthberg 8y ago
  Embrace Extend Extinguish, the root of Electronic Evils. Hopefully it doesn't happen with IRC as it has with other lovely parts of electronic history. Microsoft was the origin of the term with their browser and OS products of old, yet it has been unfortunately more and more relevant with Google, particularly email and android openness (gmail only features and Google play services, respectively).
  - spookthesunset 8y ago
    That didn't really answer the question that was asked. IRC is an open protocol. Whats your fear? There are some seriously paranoid people on HN these days, and it is rather disenchanting to have to sift through all the negativity. Failure to embrace new things and new ways of doing things is a surefire way to irrelevancy.
    - kuschku 8y ago
      London Trust Media owns the networks where almost all users are, and either funds and closely works with most client developers, or directly employees those. That’s the fear. The IRC protocol isn’t great, nor worthy of protection. The users, the community are. If tomorrow freenode and snoonet went down, IRC would be forever changed.
  - orf 8y ago
    It's being extingushed right now because nobody is extending or embracing it.
- jlgaddis 8y ago
  RSS is an open standard too, but Google effectively killed it.
  - Twirrim 8y ago
    They really didn't. Most websites that publish articles in any form still have RSS feeds, and there are plenty of feed readers out there that work.
rasengan 8y ago
“This is the kind of divisiveness that has paralyzed our country.” - Richard Stallman [1] [1] http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109 http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109