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If I'm pretty sure I had money in Mt Gox but I'm not sure how much, how could I ever file a "proof of claim"? It's not like Mt Gox was sending depositors balanc

If I'm pretty sure I had money in Mt Gox but I'm not sure how much, how could I ever file a "proof of claim"? It's not like Mt Gox was sending depositors balance statements every month or something.

iblaine 8y ago
I had money in mtgox. I tried checking for proof of claim a few months ago and their website was broken.
- donovanh 8y ago
  Same here. I have no way to find out how much I lost, so I can't claim :(
  - massaman_yams 8y ago
    The MtGox database was hacked and leaked in 2014, including balance info. It's available here: https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak DO NOT USE THE EXECUTABLE IN /backoffice/Bin/TibanneBackOffice.zip - IT IS MALWARE Unzip /backoffice/Exports/mtgox_balances.zip. Your user ID is a UUID, and can be obtained from your Mt.Gox account creation email, from the account confirmation link (example, sanitized) ht_ps://mtgox.com/signup/validate?ID=1111aaaa-bbbb-cccc-dddd-eeeeeeffffff&Code=1234567890123456 Search or grep for this UUID in the unzipped mtgox_balances file and you should have values for BTC and your primary currency. Divide these values by 100000000 to get actual amounts. The 'stamp' column appears to be a timestamp of last update of these values, and the last date in this leak with significant activity is 2014-02-25.
    - nodesocket 8y ago
      It's a little absurd a leak itself is infected with malware and malicious intent. The current state of Bitcoin and cryto is litterally filled with pirates and thives. I've personally been burnt for a decent amount and I am very tech savvy. Can you imagine your parents trying to navigate the cryto environment?
      - massaman_yams 8y ago
        Yep. Not viable for people like that unless and until an exchange has the same protections and guarantees they expect from a traditional bank.
    - donovanh 8y ago
      Amazing! I found my purchase and the exact amount of BTC I was holding. It's not massive but feels great to get some closure on this.
ta1234567890 8y ago
At least for some time, on mtgox.com you could log in with your original credentials and check your balance to make a claim. Not sure how that's going to be handled now.
kristofferR 8y ago
The complete trade history of every MtGox customer up to 30.11.2013 was leaked in 2014, you can find your own trade records in the leak. However, the leaked trade records didn't contain emails/names that you can search for, so you need other details to discover what your userID is. This page may be helpful: https://bitcoin.tax/mtgox https://bitcoin.tax/mtgox If you registered at MTGox before mid-2011 you can use the user database leak from around then to find your userID, which you can then use to search the trade records.
- massaman_yams 8y ago
  I did a quick look, and balance info appears to be available through 2014-02-25, if the 'stamp' field in the mtgox_balances file is to be trusted.
nodja 8y ago
I wasn't sure if I had a balance myself so I just went through this. Download this file WARNING FILE CONTAINS VIRUS, DO NOT RUN EXECUTABLES INSIDE ZIP. To be safe, extract the files inside MtGox2014Leak.zip\backoffice\Exports __ONLY__: https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak The exports folder contains 2 zip files, one contains a list of transactions in csv format, the other contains the output of a sql query displaying all balances. Go into your e-mail records and find any transaction id, it will look like a v1 UUID (example: 682b3d0a-67d7-4b62-8ed4-4e1d39d54a69) Look for it inside the btc_xfer_report.csv. The UUID before it on the same line is your wallet. Look for your wallet UUID inside the mtgox_balances file. If it's not there you either didn't have a wallet at the time of the dump, or your balance was 0.
ta1234567890 8y ago
Try checking this out by signing in with your original Mtgox account: https://claims.mtgox.com https://claims.mtgox.com Also, more info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/8t0lbq/latest_update_22_june_2018_civil_rehabilitation/ https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/8t0lbq/lat...
- otoburb 8y ago
  As per the FAQ, the claims system has been disabled until the trustee is ready to accept claims again: "Further, due to the stay of the bankruptcy proceedings, MTGOX bankruptcy claims filling system (the “System”), which was being provided on its website, has been temporarily suspended. As in the bankruptcy proceedings, the Civil Rehabilitation Trustee is expected to accept the method of filing a proof of rehabilitation claim through the System in the Civil Rehabilitation Proceedings as well. Therefore, please take note of your user name and password registered on the System." [1] https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf

If I'm pretty sure I had money in Mt Gox but I'm not sure how much, how could I ever file a "proof of claim"? It's not like Mt Gox was sending depositors balance statements every month or something.

iblaine 8y ago

I had money in mtgox. I tried checking for proof of claim a few months ago and their website was broken.

donovanh 8y ago
Same here. I have no way to find out how much I lost, so I can't claim :(
- massaman_yams 8y ago
  The MtGox database was hacked and leaked in 2014, including balance info. It's available here: https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak DO NOT USE THE EXECUTABLE IN /backoffice/Bin/TibanneBackOffice.zip - IT IS MALWARE Unzip /backoffice/Exports/mtgox_balances.zip. Your user ID is a UUID, and can be obtained from your Mt.Gox account creation email, from the account confirmation link (example, sanitized) ht_ps://mtgox.com/signup/validate?ID=1111aaaa-bbbb-cccc-dddd-eeeeeeffffff&Code=1234567890123456 Search or grep for this UUID in the unzipped mtgox_balances file and you should have values for BTC and your primary currency. Divide these values by 100000000 to get actual amounts. The 'stamp' column appears to be a timestamp of last update of these values, and the last date in this leak with significant activity is 2014-02-25.
  - nodesocket 8y ago
    It's a little absurd a leak itself is infected with malware and malicious intent. The current state of Bitcoin and cryto is litterally filled with pirates and thives. I've personally been burnt for a decent amount and I am very tech savvy. Can you imagine your parents trying to navigate the cryto environment?
    - massaman_yams 8y ago
      Yep. Not viable for people like that unless and until an exchange has the same protections and guarantees they expect from a traditional bank.
  - donovanh 8y ago
    Amazing! I found my purchase and the exact amount of BTC I was holding. It's not massive but feels great to get some closure on this.

ta1234567890 8y ago

At least for some time, on mtgox.com you could log in with your original credentials and check your balance to make a claim. Not sure how that's going to be handled now.

kristofferR 8y ago

The complete trade history of every MtGox customer up to 30.11.2013 was leaked in 2014, you can find your own trade records in the leak. However, the leaked trade records didn't contain emails/names that you can search for, so you need other details to discover what your userID is. This page may be helpful: https://bitcoin.tax/mtgox https://bitcoin.tax/mtgox If you registered at MTGox before mid-2011 you can use the user database leak from around then to find your userID, which you can then use to search the trade records.

massaman_yams 8y ago
I did a quick look, and balance info appears to be available through 2014-02-25, if the 'stamp' field in the mtgox_balances file is to be trusted.

nodja 8y ago

I wasn't sure if I had a balance myself so I just went through this. Download this file WARNING FILE CONTAINS VIRUS, DO NOT RUN EXECUTABLES INSIDE ZIP. To be safe, extract the files inside MtGox2014Leak.zip\backoffice\Exports __ONLY__: https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak https://archive.org/details/MtGox2014Leak The exports folder contains 2 zip files, one contains a list of transactions in csv format, the other contains the output of a sql query displaying all balances. Go into your e-mail records and find any transaction id, it will look like a v1 UUID (example: 682b3d0a-67d7-4b62-8ed4-4e1d39d54a69) Look for it inside the btc_xfer_report.csv. The UUID before it on the same line is your wallet. Look for your wallet UUID inside the mtgox_balances file. If it's not there you either didn't have a wallet at the time of the dump, or your balance was 0.

ta1234567890 8y ago

Try checking this out by signing in with your original Mtgox account: https://claims.mtgox.com https://claims.mtgox.com Also, more info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/8t0lbq/latest_update_22_june_2018_civil_rehabilitation/ https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/8t0lbq/lat...

otoburb 8y ago
As per the FAQ, the claims system has been disabled until the trustee is ready to accept claims again: "Further, due to the stay of the bankruptcy proceedings, MTGOX bankruptcy claims filling system (the “System”), which was being provided on its website, has been temporarily suspended. As in the bankruptcy proceedings, the Civil Rehabilitation Trustee is expected to accept the method of filing a proof of rehabilitation claim through the System in the Civil Rehabilitation Proceedings as well. Therefore, please take note of your user name and password registered on the System." [1] https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf