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Why you seem to think Maven will target civilians is beyond me. If you build better recognition systems for drones they will be better able to mitigate collater

Why you seem to think Maven will target civilians is beyond me. If you build better recognition systems for drones they will be better able to mitigate collateral damage. Is this not exactly what you want?

s73v3r_ 8y ago
"Why you seem to think Maven will target civilians is beyond me" Because it's for the US military. They have an unbelievably shitty track record in not hitting civilians. It was shitty under Obama, and it's gotten even shittier under Trump. And the issue isn't the ability to target better; it's that the military simply does not care.
- jimbofisher1 8y ago
  That may be your opinion but I can assure you it is not accurate. Your hysteria is clouding your judgement.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    It's not accurate that the military has a terrible track record regarding civilian casualties? Go ahead and offer your proof to the contrary, then.
    - _dps 8y ago
      I don't know if it's true or not, but based on a little thinking about availability bias and publication bias suggest it's plausible. No one is likely to write about "targets hit exactly as planned, no collateral damage" and even if they do as a puff piece for the military we're unlikely to remember that. In contrast, every single mistargeting is plausibly worldwide news and our brains are wired to remember such things. To be clear, I don't have any hard data either way. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's true given the asymmetry of typical cognitive bias in evaluating such a claim. The folk version of this is that you "only ever hear about the CIA's mistakes and not of their successes".
    - jimbofisher1 8y ago
      It's not accurate that the military doesn't care. You are foolish.
- manigandham 8y ago
  Please stop and try to talk to some active military personnel before you just pass judgement like this. War is messy. This isn't a video game. The US military goes to extreme lengths in order to avoid collateral damage, including the blood of our own soldiers to protect as many innocents as possible. It's unfortunate that civilians will die but saying the military doesn't care is so beyond the pale that it just sounds like pure hysteria.
  - s2g 8y ago
    > War is messy. This isn't a video game Pretty much is when the biggest risk to one side is from sitting on their butts remote piloting drones.
s2g 8y ago
or they will better identify a target and choose to bomb the civilians anyway because they can get away with it.

s73v3r_ 8y ago

"Why you seem to think Maven will target civilians is beyond me" Because it's for the US military. They have an unbelievably shitty track record in not hitting civilians. It was shitty under Obama, and it's gotten even shittier under Trump. And the issue isn't the ability to target better; it's that the military simply does not care.

jimbofisher1 8y ago
That may be your opinion but I can assure you it is not accurate. Your hysteria is clouding your judgement.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  It's not accurate that the military has a terrible track record regarding civilian casualties? Go ahead and offer your proof to the contrary, then.
  - _dps 8y ago
    I don't know if it's true or not, but based on a little thinking about availability bias and publication bias suggest it's plausible. No one is likely to write about "targets hit exactly as planned, no collateral damage" and even if they do as a puff piece for the military we're unlikely to remember that. In contrast, every single mistargeting is plausibly worldwide news and our brains are wired to remember such things. To be clear, I don't have any hard data either way. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's true given the asymmetry of typical cognitive bias in evaluating such a claim. The folk version of this is that you "only ever hear about the CIA's mistakes and not of their successes".
  - jimbofisher1 8y ago
    It's not accurate that the military doesn't care. You are foolish.
manigandham 8y ago
Please stop and try to talk to some active military personnel before you just pass judgement like this. War is messy. This isn't a video game. The US military goes to extreme lengths in order to avoid collateral damage, including the blood of our own soldiers to protect as many innocents as possible. It's unfortunate that civilians will die but saying the military doesn't care is so beyond the pale that it just sounds like pure hysteria.
- s2g 8y ago
  > War is messy. This isn't a video game Pretty much is when the biggest risk to one side is from sitting on their butts remote piloting drones.

s2g 8y ago

or they will better identify a target and choose to bomb the civilians anyway because they can get away with it.