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I'm in the bay area, where the "anti-conservative" movement is prevalent which means not considering anything that is against the "anti-conservative" party line
by deltateam 8y ago
I'm in the bay area, where the "anti-conservative" movement is prevalent which means not considering anything that is against the "anti-conservative" party line.
many things aren't considered on their merits simply because the conservative face has done or said things they disagree with even though it is completely unrelated to lawmaking or anything congress would even consider.
any dissent is seen as support for the current administration.
any dissent is seen as TACIT consent for race-based discrimination, xenophobia, and gender based assault and inequality.
any dissent elevates you to being the spokesperson of everything they hate.
I understand why. Everyone's entire political party needs to operate as a unit to swing power in their favor.
but it is so one dimensional that many people reject it, since there always is a gradient for each separate issue.
conservative in this context doesn't mean anti-progressive, or risk averse, or traditional. it is just a political grouping, but in the bay area it means even slightly considering the merit behind a not-democrat party proposal.
- smt88 8y agoHow does conservative not mean anti-progressive? They're opposites by definition, aren't they? I'm not just talking about a colloquial US usage. This is also how history books divide political forces when describing past societies.
- deltateam 8y ago> I'm not just talking about a colloquial US usage. but thats what we are talking about, thats what context means its as fluid as any variable name you add to a program, in this case that variable's name is conservative.
- smt88 8y agoI meant that in all contexts, conservative and progressive are antonyms, not just in colloquial usage.
- deltateam 8y agoright, we got that and that's wrong. if your observation became "hey that party self-identifies with the wrong word and maybe there is a historical reason for this" then yes, that is correct
- manigandham 8y agoBecause in reality, people and politics are a complex matrix of thousands of issues and not a simple left-or-right slider.
- smt88 8y agoLanguage doesn't always capture complexity, but we're arguing about definitions, not about whether they apply wholly to any one person. They do certainly apply wholly to ideas, though.
- s2g 8y agoI agree that it's ridiculous, since even considering a "conservative" idea makes you the enemy. But if you vote republican, I do very much agree with the first 2 points.
- deltateam 8y ago> But if you vote republican, I do very much agree with the first 2 points. which is funny because now all sides, of two, think each other as fascists. democrats think republicans are fascist because the lack of reprimanding against insensitive ideas, while the republicans continue to promote bigotry with no focus on civil rights republicans think democrats are fascist because democrats want to reprimand any voters that don't vote democrat and didn't waste their vote on a non-republican party all while nobody actually does what fascists actually did