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They can and have, but it seems happen a lot less. This is an instance where the shades of gray are important. Furthermore you have to consider the non-binary
by JackCh 8y ago
They can and have, but it seems happen a lot less. This is an instance where the shades of gray are important.
Furthermore you have to consider the non-binary nature of being demonetized. Youtube may demonetize only 50% of your videos, leaving your channel active but severely impacting the predictability of your income. Patreon provides stability and therefore a sense of security that creators are desperately looking for. You might lose significant income seemingly at random because your neighbor turned up their radio a little bit too loud and triggered ContentID, but so far Patreon isn't taking away creators' income for chickenshit stuff like that.
- Mindwipe 8y agoNot really. Patreon is just as arbitrary and widespread on sudden suspensions of entire accounts (with 100% of a creator's revenue going with it) based on capricious criteria as YouTube is. Patreon has been absolutely burning credibility with creators over the last twelve months.
- corobo 8y agoAll these anti-Patreon comments in a row and nobody's given any sort of non-weasel wordy statement. The only thing I can find is that they removed adult content. Presumably because they use Stripe and Paypal to process payments and both of those are very hair-trigger when it comes to payments for adult content, which are deemed "High Risk" by the underlying payment processors. So essentially Patreon's bannings (unless anyone has any further information) are a technical and customer service issue. They could probably process adult content through a high risk processor but that would mean adult content creators get less money per pledged dollar due to the higher transaction fees
- vetinari 8y agoThey banned people, because they were on other end of political spectrum as Patreon management folks are.
- gruez 8y agoSource?
- corobo 8y agoTo shorten my previous comment Who was banned?
- vetinari 8y agoLauren Southern and Faith Goldy on one side. It's Going Down on the other. This one was due to pressure after banning Lauren Southern and "don't be hypocrites, if you are going to invent new rules on the spot, at least apply them consistently".
- JackCh 8y agoSidestepping the issue of whether or not those two women deserved to be banned: that's just two women. As I said earlier, the shades of gray are important here. A handful of people being banned from Patreon versus a great many people getting randomly demonetized on youtube. Whether or not you've got a political grudge against Patreon, the simple fact of the matter is that Patreon does currently provide a sense of security for creators who feel very insecure on the capricious youtube platform.
- vetinari 8y agoI never claimed that Youtube is any better in this regard. Only that the same risk exists, even if the chance of it happening is different for each platform.
- JackCh 8y agoThe lower chance of it happening on Patreon is important. It's the reason why youtube creators are using Patreon to provide themselves with relative stability in light of Youtube's capriciousness.
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- eumoria 8y agoany source/information on this? news to me would love to know more
- JackCh 8y agoFrankly I think that's a load of shit. I've not seen or hear of patreon cracking down on anything except for fringe (in an objective sense) political content or pornography. I'm sure creators of such content are much aggrieved, but compared to the scope of the demonetization on youtube, it amounts to approximately jack shit. How many times has Patreon kicked CodysLab or TheReportOfTheWeek off for non-political non-sexual content? I've not heard of anybody kicked off Patreon for profanity or any similarly chickenshit reasons youtube regularly demonetizes people for.