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It does not seem like Google is in the wrong here. Unless Blender is willing to pay hosting charges, Google has no obligation to host these videos for free

simongr3dal 8y ago
Google made the option to mark a video as unmonetized in the first place, I don't see how it can be an uploader's fault for using an available option?
- dingo_bat 8y ago
  Now they are taking that option away. They should get to dictate the terms of use of their free service, IMO. It's still a massive dick move. But what can you do?
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - read_if_gay_ 8y ago
    Nobody has an issue with that, the problem is they're apparently doing that without any announcement or clear communication
  - yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
    > But what can you do? Spin up a peertube instance, apparently:)
  - Sylos 8y ago
    Well, you could write a blog post about it, so that Google gets the bad press it deserves for this dick move...
djsumdog 8y ago
We hear "it's their platform, they can do what they want," a whole lot. The trouble is the platform is almost a monopoly on user created video. You can't launch on other platforms and hope to be as successful as being on YouTube. Their discovery mechanism and massive user base gives them an incredibly unique positions. YouTube is from an earlier era, yet still after the dotcom bust. It was still on the rebound of the era of everything is free, we'll just make money on ads (like NetZero and Juno). That model was and still isn't sustainable, and their dominance gives them pretty unique control over media. Same with Facebook.
- geergar 8y ago
  > The trouble is the platform is almost a monopoly on user created video. I agree entirely. So the solution is to break up the monopoly. We can start by breaking up google: https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-google/ https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-... We also need to promote interchangeability and open standards. Not sure how to do this - wonder if legislation is required.
ec109685 8y ago
This analysis is incorrect. Google doesn’t require running ads inside videos at all.

simongr3dal 8y ago

Google made the option to mark a video as unmonetized in the first place, I don't see how it can be an uploader's fault for using an available option?

dingo_bat 8y ago
Now they are taking that option away. They should get to dictate the terms of use of their free service, IMO. It's still a massive dick move. But what can you do?
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- read_if_gay_ 8y ago
  Nobody has an issue with that, the problem is they're apparently doing that without any announcement or clear communication
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
  > But what can you do? Spin up a peertube instance, apparently:)
- Sylos 8y ago
  Well, you could write a blog post about it, so that Google gets the bad press it deserves for this dick move...

djsumdog 8y ago

We hear "it's their platform, they can do what they want," a whole lot. The trouble is the platform is almost a monopoly on user created video. You can't launch on other platforms and hope to be as successful as being on YouTube. Their discovery mechanism and massive user base gives them an incredibly unique positions. YouTube is from an earlier era, yet still after the dotcom bust. It was still on the rebound of the era of everything is free, we'll just make money on ads (like NetZero and Juno). That model was and still isn't sustainable, and their dominance gives them pretty unique control over media. Same with Facebook.

geergar 8y ago
> The trouble is the platform is almost a monopoly on user created video. I agree entirely. So the solution is to break up the monopoly. We can start by breaking up google: https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-google/ https://apps.bostonglobe.com/opinion/graphics/2018/06/break-... We also need to promote interchangeability and open standards. Not sure how to do this - wonder if legislation is required.

ec109685 8y ago

This analysis is incorrect. Google doesn’t require running ads inside videos at all.