4 ms·

Given how hostile YouTube has been to creators, I won't be supporting creators through their platform.

jackgolding 8y ago
Yup even with Twitch I rather donate straight to Paypal over having some silly icon next to my name during a recurring payment.
snuxoll 8y ago
Hell, the crap they've been pulling with the recommendation algorithms and subscriptions that creators have been complaining about also messes with the consumers. I get so much crap I'm not interested in displayed when I open YouTube up compared to a year or two ago, and I've been watching more content than ever so it's not like Google doesn't have a good profile on me. All it takes is watching one video outside my normal fields of interest and my front page is flooded with similar ones I have no interest in watching, it's ridiculous. Anyway, I already pay for YouTube Premium, if I'm going to give anything extra to content creators beyond the chunk of that Google divides among them I'm not going to do it through the platform that's actively hostile to the people creating the videos I'm watching.
- nyolfen 8y ago
  using the 'i'm not interested' flag on recommendations works reasonably well for culling subjects from your feed. not that i'm defending the recommendations in general, it's shocking how abysmal they can be.
ralusek 8y ago
YouTube's demonetization of certain videos is mostly to do with the advertisers bailing on controversial content, this seems like them giving an alternative way to keep controversial creators profitable for both the creator and the platform. If the content is controversial, so the advertisers bail...the force to the rescue has been Patreon. But Patreon donations help the content creator, and they help Patreon, but YouTube is cut out of the profitability altogether. They are the ones hosting the content, as well as taking the opportunity cost hit of recommending you content from demonetized videos that they know you like. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy to see them recognize that there should be ways to monetize content that exist independently from how appetizing content is to advertisers...while still remaining financial beneficiaries in the process. They're hosting the content!

Yup even with Twitch I rather donate straight to Paypal over having some silly icon next to my name during a recurring payment.

snuxoll 8y ago

Hell, the crap they've been pulling with the recommendation algorithms and subscriptions that creators have been complaining about also messes with the consumers. I get so much crap I'm not interested in displayed when I open YouTube up compared to a year or two ago, and I've been watching more content than ever so it's not like Google doesn't have a good profile on me. All it takes is watching one video outside my normal fields of interest and my front page is flooded with similar ones I have no interest in watching, it's ridiculous. Anyway, I already pay for YouTube Premium, if I'm going to give anything extra to content creators beyond the chunk of that Google divides among them I'm not going to do it through the platform that's actively hostile to the people creating the videos I'm watching.

nyolfen 8y ago
using the 'i'm not interested' flag on recommendations works reasonably well for culling subjects from your feed. not that i'm defending the recommendations in general, it's shocking how abysmal they can be.

ralusek 8y ago

YouTube's demonetization of certain videos is mostly to do with the advertisers bailing on controversial content, this seems like them giving an alternative way to keep controversial creators profitable for both the creator and the platform. If the content is controversial, so the advertisers bail...the force to the rescue has been Patreon. But Patreon donations help the content creator, and they help Patreon, but YouTube is cut out of the profitability altogether. They are the ones hosting the content, as well as taking the opportunity cost hit of recommending you content from demonetized videos that they know you like. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy to see them recognize that there should be ways to monetize content that exist independently from how appetizing content is to advertisers...while still remaining financial beneficiaries in the process. They're hosting the content!