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>Lawn darts were banned on a mere 750 ED visits annually Lawn darts are a toy, a toy for children an adults to play alike. Ball magnets aren't sold as a toy.

>Lawn darts were banned on a mere 750 ED visits annually Lawn darts are a toy, a toy for children an adults to play alike. Ball magnets aren't sold as a toy. We don't restrict the sale of sharp knives because children might injure themselves, no we rely on parents to not let their children play with them.

justin66 8y ago
> Ball magnets aren't sold as a toy. They were when this controversy began.
- romwell 8y ago
  But not anymore, and not for a while. And from CPSC's perspective, it doesn't matter, because they were sticking to the point that no amount of warnings and restrictions can make magnets safe enough to be sold. (Unlike, say, an M-16 rifle).
  - foobarian 8y ago
    If they ever need plan B they can start manufacturing guns out of these ball magnets, and then CPSC won't be able to touch them.
  - tptacek 8y ago
    What CPSC document are you relying on for that assertion? I just read the 2017 Zen Magnet ALJ decision, and it revolves around the marketed intended use for the products: The intended use and operation of the Subject Products require the magnets to be separated and reattached to create and reshape the magnets into a variety of figures, sculptures, structures, jewelry, and art. See, e.g., Exs. R-55 (product guide with examples of structures that can be created with the Subject Products); R-139 (“Never Let Go of Childhood Wonder” demonstration video Two obvious observations: - "Childlike wonder"? Really? - If there's any use for these things that is more dangerous than desk toys, it's jewelry.
herpes 8y ago
>We don't restrict the sale of sharp knives because children might injure themselves Some places do, actually. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
- AndrewDavis 8y ago
  Sorry, I should have been more careful with my choice of wording. We don't outright ban sharp knives. In Australia most states have laws restricting knife sales to young people, in my state it's 18. I don't think many people would be against a law preventing sale of these magnets to children,.

justin66 8y ago

> Ball magnets aren't sold as a toy. They were when this controversy began.

romwell 8y ago
But not anymore, and not for a while. And from CPSC's perspective, it doesn't matter, because they were sticking to the point that no amount of warnings and restrictions can make magnets safe enough to be sold. (Unlike, say, an M-16 rifle).
- foobarian 8y ago
  If they ever need plan B they can start manufacturing guns out of these ball magnets, and then CPSC won't be able to touch them.
- tptacek 8y ago
  What CPSC document are you relying on for that assertion? I just read the 2017 Zen Magnet ALJ decision, and it revolves around the marketed intended use for the products: The intended use and operation of the Subject Products require the magnets to be separated and reattached to create and reshape the magnets into a variety of figures, sculptures, structures, jewelry, and art. See, e.g., Exs. R-55 (product guide with examples of structures that can be created with the Subject Products); R-139 (“Never Let Go of Childhood Wonder” demonstration video Two obvious observations: - "Childlike wonder"? Really? - If there's any use for these things that is more dangerous than desk toys, it's jewelry.

herpes 8y ago

>We don't restrict the sale of sharp knives because children might injure themselves Some places do, actually. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

AndrewDavis 8y ago
Sorry, I should have been more careful with my choice of wording. We don't outright ban sharp knives. In Australia most states have laws restricting knife sales to young people, in my state it's 18. I don't think many people would be against a law preventing sale of these magnets to children,.