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There’s zero national economic gain from _any_ variation in law from state to state, but either you’re in favour of state’s rights or you’re not.

by moomin 8y ago

walshemj 8y ago
There's a lot of similar problems with having sets of 52 plus federal employment laws. Its not surprising that one US right wing think tank thought the UK with its "socialist" NHS and higher income tax was a freer place to business.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>here’s zero national economic gain from _any_ variation in law from state to state Yes there is. States compete with each other and this prevents any one of them from having laws that are much crappier and more oppressive than average because when that happens businesses and people leave.
- beojan 8y ago
  So competition might prevent one of many downsides to different states having different laws? I don't see why this means there's any benefit to that situation over just having one set of laws?
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Depending on your political leaning, you wouldn’t want the same laws in GA as in CA.
    - moomin 8y ago
      That’s a relatively unusual leaning. Most people think their values should be universal.
      - beojan 8y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity Not as unusual as you would think, given that it is a basic principle of both the EU (despite what Eurosceptics would have you think) and the US.
- moomin 8y ago
  You’ve just described variation as a way of mitigating the effects of variation. There’s a case to be made for variation, but that ain’t it.
  - voidmain 8y ago
    The model [1] GP alludes to claims that competition forces small governments to provide better (more efficient, more optimally chosen, etc) local services than monopoly governments, for the same reasons that competitive companies are expected to provide better services at a lower price. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiebout_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiebout_model
- rconti 8y ago
  Wrong. You'd move to New Hampshire if this was true.
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    How do you know I'm not planning to?

There’s zero national economic gain from _any_ variation in law from state to state, but either you’re in favour of state’s rights or you’re not.

by moomin 8y ago

There’s zero national economic gain from _any_ variation in law from state to state, but either you’re in favour of state’s rights or you’re not.

walshemj 8y ago

There's a lot of similar problems with having sets of 52 plus federal employment laws. Its not surprising that one US right wing think tank thought the UK with its "socialist" NHS and higher income tax was a freer place to business.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

>here’s zero national economic gain from _any_ variation in law from state to state Yes there is. States compete with each other and this prevents any one of them from having laws that are much crappier and more oppressive than average because when that happens businesses and people leave.

beojan 8y ago
So competition might prevent one of many downsides to different states having different laws? I don't see why this means there's any benefit to that situation over just having one set of laws?
- scarface74 8y ago
  Depending on your political leaning, you wouldn’t want the same laws in GA as in CA.
  - moomin 8y ago
    That’s a relatively unusual leaning. Most people think their values should be universal.
    - beojan 8y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity Not as unusual as you would think, given that it is a basic principle of both the EU (despite what Eurosceptics would have you think) and the US.
moomin 8y ago
You’ve just described variation as a way of mitigating the effects of variation. There’s a case to be made for variation, but that ain’t it.
- voidmain 8y ago
  The model [1] GP alludes to claims that competition forces small governments to provide better (more efficient, more optimally chosen, etc) local services than monopoly governments, for the same reasons that competitive companies are expected to provide better services at a lower price. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiebout_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiebout_model
rconti 8y ago
Wrong. You'd move to New Hampshire if this was true.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  How do you know I'm not planning to?