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The funny thing is that Musk is literally destroying his public image with this. I mean, who will believe his nice nerd image if he's standing with blood staine

by erikb 8y ago

The funny thing is that Musk is literally destroying his public image with this. I mean, who will believe his nice nerd image if he's standing with blood stained face laughing about the crippled dead body of this ex employee of his. Not many better ways of public image suicide out there.

telchar 8y ago
Oh come off it. If he's indeed a saboteur he will garner very little pity from losing a lawsuit. Since when do we support people who allegedly use industrial sabotage against the very companies pushing the boundaries of reducing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions? Your overblown imagery is ridiculous.
- ianleeclark 8y ago
  Elon is just a bored rich kid and the reducing pollution and greenhouse gas is a facade to distract himself from his ghoulish nature. If you really care about these two things, are you a vegan? Is he a vegan? Or, the far more likelier situation, is Elon attempting to ultimately dissuade workers from unionizing, so that he can continue to exploit them?
  - WhompingWindows 8y ago
    How is he a "bored rich kid"? He's bored running two innovative companies? Not to mention he started his entrepeneurship at 12, he sold a video game he created at that age. Since then, I believe he's started 7-8 companies. Hardly what I'd call a "bored" person. What does veganism have to do with an electric car company? His eating or not of meat has about a .000001% greenhouse gas impact relative to his investments in renewable energy and electrification.
- Fricken 8y ago
  When Musk went public with delusional claims about what Autopilot's HW2 would be capable of, the director of Autopilot at the time, Sterling Anderson, made the principled decision to resign. Sterling later teamed up with Chris Urmson and Drew Bagnell to co-founded their autonomous driving startup, Aurora innovation. When the fledgling startup was only 3 weeks old Musk levied a meritless lawsuit against Aurora, accusing them of using trade secrets stolen from Tesla. The irony of this is that there was nothing worth stealing from autopilot. It was a critical time for Aurora, and the lawsuit was costing them $200k/month, so Aurora settled out of court, paying Tesla's legal fees and agreeing to monthly audits (which Tesla never followed up on, since the lawsuit was bullshit anyhow). My opinion of Musk really went south after that. I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt on anything, anymore. Fortunately Aurora managed to escape that near death experience and has an autonomous driving dream team together, solid funding, and has partnerships with 2 of the top 3 biggest automakers in the world. Robotaxis stand to challenge the economics of personal vehicle ownership and have the potential to dramatically reduce the impact our transportation system has on the environment, and that's what Musk was out to destroy.
  - WhompingWindows 8y ago
    Giving him the benefit of the doubt is one thing; using ridiculously over the top negative language about him and his companies is another thing. The grandparent of your comment is hyperbolic in its contents, and the parent of your comment is right to point that out.
  - zip1234 8y ago
    If you were the Tesla CEO and your director of Autopilot quits to start a company doing the exact same thing, would you be OK with that? I wouldn't.
    - Fricken 8y ago
      If I was the CEO of Tesla Sterling wouldn't have quit, because my strategy for developing autonomy would have been grounded in reality. My strategy for mass producing the Model 3 also would have been grounded in reality. And I certainly wouldn't have spent $2.6 billion buying a failing solar installation company with $2.9 billion in debt. The last few years of Musk's reign over Tesla have been marked by colossal strategic errors made unilaterally in stubborn defiance of conventional wisdom and against the better advice of the experts and specialists he's surrounded by. I don't know why you guys keep defending him, he's incompetent. He has an established track record of paranoia, delusions, cronyism, lies, threats and petty vengeance. For all his claims of Tesla's many enemies, the only legit threat to Tesla's future success is Musk himself. Big boy car companies don't operate this way, and for very good reasons. Very good reasons. It would be a lot easier to root for Tesla the company if it could be separated from Elon Musk the personality cult.
    - whatyoucantsay 8y ago
      California isn't the state for you, then.

by erikb 8y ago

telchar 8y ago

Oh come off it. If he's indeed a saboteur he will garner very little pity from losing a lawsuit. Since when do we support people who allegedly use industrial sabotage against the very companies pushing the boundaries of reducing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions? Your overblown imagery is ridiculous.

ianleeclark 8y ago
Elon is just a bored rich kid and the reducing pollution and greenhouse gas is a facade to distract himself from his ghoulish nature. If you really care about these two things, are you a vegan? Is he a vegan? Or, the far more likelier situation, is Elon attempting to ultimately dissuade workers from unionizing, so that he can continue to exploit them?
- WhompingWindows 8y ago
  How is he a "bored rich kid"? He's bored running two innovative companies? Not to mention he started his entrepeneurship at 12, he sold a video game he created at that age. Since then, I believe he's started 7-8 companies. Hardly what I'd call a "bored" person. What does veganism have to do with an electric car company? His eating or not of meat has about a .000001% greenhouse gas impact relative to his investments in renewable energy and electrification.
Fricken 8y ago
When Musk went public with delusional claims about what Autopilot's HW2 would be capable of, the director of Autopilot at the time, Sterling Anderson, made the principled decision to resign. Sterling later teamed up with Chris Urmson and Drew Bagnell to co-founded their autonomous driving startup, Aurora innovation. When the fledgling startup was only 3 weeks old Musk levied a meritless lawsuit against Aurora, accusing them of using trade secrets stolen from Tesla. The irony of this is that there was nothing worth stealing from autopilot. It was a critical time for Aurora, and the lawsuit was costing them $200k/month, so Aurora settled out of court, paying Tesla's legal fees and agreeing to monthly audits (which Tesla never followed up on, since the lawsuit was bullshit anyhow). My opinion of Musk really went south after that. I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt on anything, anymore. Fortunately Aurora managed to escape that near death experience and has an autonomous driving dream team together, solid funding, and has partnerships with 2 of the top 3 biggest automakers in the world. Robotaxis stand to challenge the economics of personal vehicle ownership and have the potential to dramatically reduce the impact our transportation system has on the environment, and that's what Musk was out to destroy.
- WhompingWindows 8y ago
  Giving him the benefit of the doubt is one thing; using ridiculously over the top negative language about him and his companies is another thing. The grandparent of your comment is hyperbolic in its contents, and the parent of your comment is right to point that out.
- zip1234 8y ago
  If you were the Tesla CEO and your director of Autopilot quits to start a company doing the exact same thing, would you be OK with that? I wouldn't.
  - Fricken 8y ago
    If I was the CEO of Tesla Sterling wouldn't have quit, because my strategy for developing autonomy would have been grounded in reality. My strategy for mass producing the Model 3 also would have been grounded in reality. And I certainly wouldn't have spent $2.6 billion buying a failing solar installation company with $2.9 billion in debt. The last few years of Musk's reign over Tesla have been marked by colossal strategic errors made unilaterally in stubborn defiance of conventional wisdom and against the better advice of the experts and specialists he's surrounded by. I don't know why you guys keep defending him, he's incompetent. He has an established track record of paranoia, delusions, cronyism, lies, threats and petty vengeance. For all his claims of Tesla's many enemies, the only legit threat to Tesla's future success is Musk himself. Big boy car companies don't operate this way, and for very good reasons. Very good reasons. It would be a lot easier to root for Tesla the company if it could be separated from Elon Musk the personality cult.
  - whatyoucantsay 8y ago
    California isn't the state for you, then.