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Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server

Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market" while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the marketplace. All of these are good reasons the board might want him gone. My only other point is that even on Hacker News, everyone assumes it's a female subordinate (count the "she's" in this thread). Not that I have any inside knowledge, but it tells you something in how this policy is interpreted.

stamps 8y ago
Why do you think Apple would develop an x86 chip over other architectures?
- KSS42 8y ago
  I read that as a competitor to x86.
  - InTheArena 8y ago
    this...
  - syncsynchalt 8y ago
    And beyond that, what if Apple proves out a method for efficiently emulating x86 on ARM (like they did with Rosetta, which was considered an infeasible emulation of register-rich PPC on x86?)
  - stamps 8y ago
    And you have read it right. My mistake.
krotton 8y ago
Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.
- drb91 8y ago
  Why assume at all?
  - detuur 8y ago
    Because it's a natural thing to do. It's very tiresome to watch yourself all day to make sure you're not making any assumptions. We hear "CEO has relationship with employee" and our mind immediately goes to work fabricating a mental image of that. And if there's something our mind is really good at, it's filling in the gaps, i.e. assumptions. So when we continue the conversation, we use that mental image and without even thinking use the word "she" when referring to the employee. Is this insensitive? No, it's just sticking to patterns, which is the modus operandi of our mind.
    - forapurpose 8y ago
      I think the parent is descriptive for many people, but that's a different issue than prescriptive. We can do much better: > Is this insensitive? No, it's just sticking to patterns IMHO, that's the cause of most discrimination. People aren't intentionally discriminatory, but not having experienced it themselves they suffer from the blinders of their own perspective (as humans do), are unaware of the consequences of their actions, and are doing the very human thing of downplaying the magnitude of others' problems. As Mel Brooks (IIRC) said, 'Tragedy is I stub my toe; comedy is you get eaten by a lion.' That's why people talk about being 'woke' or becoming aware of their 'privilege'. They weren't intentionally insensitive before, but they didn't grasp what they hadn't experienced, and then one day the blinders come off. > the modus operandi of our mind The modus operendi of our minds can lead to all sorts of horrible things, from murder to war to theft. We can and do use reason in order to do better, including by learning the pattern of not making assumptions. > it's a natural thing to do It's natural to follow patterns, but the pattern isn't natural; it's just one arbitrary pattern we learn. We can learn other patterns, which is how we change and grow. Whole societies learn new patterns; democracy and universal human rights didn't exist until the 18th century (roughly speaking); for all of human history until maybe 50 years ago, women were 'naturally' though of as qualified only for raising babies and maybe some nurturing jobs. Now they fly fighter planes off aircraft carriers and are a majority of new lawyers (IT hasn't figured it out yet, apparently). > It's very tiresome to watch yourself all day If you think that's tiresome, imagine facing endless discrimination everywhere you go, from family, co-workers, employers, the person on the bus, the movie, the book, the Reddit thread, etc. Imagine facing the prospect of experiencing that for the rest of your life. Anyway, we don't have to watch ourselves all day. Just learn something new, and pretty simple. I learned some new Vim techniques recently and now I don't have to watch myself all day, I just use them. I learned to say 'they' awhile ago, and it's now second nature - Vim was harder.
ansible 8y ago
> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the days when we saw steady improvements in circuit density and simultaneously speed and simultaneously cost. When this knowledge finally sinks in with the investment community, it will call into question the valuation of the entire computer industry. We're already seeing that in the desktop space. I could replace my 6-year old Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what's out there that's significantly better at a reasonable cost? Well, a used Xeon workstation maybe, but that's about it. That should be a big red flag to the investment community, but for reasons I don't understand, people don't seem to care yet.
- wetpaws 8y ago
  Intel has a lot of interesting stuff outside of CPU area, for example NVM
  - ansible 8y ago
    Advancement of that is also dependent on silicon lithography. Again, what's the valuation of Intel if (in the future) we see them churning out the same 1GB NVMe cards at the same cost with the same performance? The valuation of Intel and every other tech company is based on future growth potential.
    - mattthebaker 8y ago
      Neither modern NAND (3D) nor 3D XPoint are directly dependent on planar silicon scaling.
      - ansible 8y ago
        That's true. 3D won't help with processors as much, because of heat dissipation issues, but storage will benefit. However, the planar silicon scaling is what primarily enables cost reduction for production. I expect the (total device) density to continue to increase with the 3D tech, but cost will go up with capacity increases. Maybe not linearly though, because you don't have to pay for extra packaging.
lainga 8y ago
Hold on, now. You can't assume Brian identifies as a man.

stamps 8y ago

Why do you think Apple would develop an x86 chip over other architectures?

KSS42 8y ago
I read that as a competitor to x86.
- InTheArena 8y ago
  this...
- syncsynchalt 8y ago
  And beyond that, what if Apple proves out a method for efficiently emulating x86 on ARM (like they did with Rosetta, which was considered an infeasible emulation of register-rich PPC on x86?)
- stamps 8y ago
  And you have read it right. My mistake.

krotton 8y ago

Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.

drb91 8y ago
Why assume at all?
- detuur 8y ago
  Because it's a natural thing to do. It's very tiresome to watch yourself all day to make sure you're not making any assumptions. We hear "CEO has relationship with employee" and our mind immediately goes to work fabricating a mental image of that. And if there's something our mind is really good at, it's filling in the gaps, i.e. assumptions. So when we continue the conversation, we use that mental image and without even thinking use the word "she" when referring to the employee. Is this insensitive? No, it's just sticking to patterns, which is the modus operandi of our mind.
  - forapurpose 8y ago
    I think the parent is descriptive for many people, but that's a different issue than prescriptive. We can do much better: > Is this insensitive? No, it's just sticking to patterns IMHO, that's the cause of most discrimination. People aren't intentionally discriminatory, but not having experienced it themselves they suffer from the blinders of their own perspective (as humans do), are unaware of the consequences of their actions, and are doing the very human thing of downplaying the magnitude of others' problems. As Mel Brooks (IIRC) said, 'Tragedy is I stub my toe; comedy is you get eaten by a lion.' That's why people talk about being 'woke' or becoming aware of their 'privilege'. They weren't intentionally insensitive before, but they didn't grasp what they hadn't experienced, and then one day the blinders come off. > the modus operandi of our mind The modus operendi of our minds can lead to all sorts of horrible things, from murder to war to theft. We can and do use reason in order to do better, including by learning the pattern of not making assumptions. > it's a natural thing to do It's natural to follow patterns, but the pattern isn't natural; it's just one arbitrary pattern we learn. We can learn other patterns, which is how we change and grow. Whole societies learn new patterns; democracy and universal human rights didn't exist until the 18th century (roughly speaking); for all of human history until maybe 50 years ago, women were 'naturally' though of as qualified only for raising babies and maybe some nurturing jobs. Now they fly fighter planes off aircraft carriers and are a majority of new lawyers (IT hasn't figured it out yet, apparently). > It's very tiresome to watch yourself all day If you think that's tiresome, imagine facing endless discrimination everywhere you go, from family, co-workers, employers, the person on the bus, the movie, the book, the Reddit thread, etc. Imagine facing the prospect of experiencing that for the rest of your life. Anyway, we don't have to watch ourselves all day. Just learn something new, and pretty simple. I learned some new Vim techniques recently and now I don't have to watch myself all day, I just use them. I learned to say 'they' awhile ago, and it's now second nature - Vim was harder.

ansible 8y ago

> Intel is in serious trouble right now. The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue. We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography. Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density. But long gone are the days when we saw steady improvements in circuit density and simultaneously speed and simultaneously cost. When this knowledge finally sinks in with the investment community, it will call into question the valuation of the entire computer industry. We're already seeing that in the desktop space. I could replace my 6-year old Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what's out there that's significantly better at a reasonable cost? Well, a used Xeon workstation maybe, but that's about it. That should be a big red flag to the investment community, but for reasons I don't understand, people don't seem to care yet.

wetpaws 8y ago
Intel has a lot of interesting stuff outside of CPU area, for example NVM
- ansible 8y ago
  Advancement of that is also dependent on silicon lithography. Again, what's the valuation of Intel if (in the future) we see them churning out the same 1GB NVMe cards at the same cost with the same performance? The valuation of Intel and every other tech company is based on future growth potential.
  - mattthebaker 8y ago
    Neither modern NAND (3D) nor 3D XPoint are directly dependent on planar silicon scaling.
    - ansible 8y ago
      That's true. 3D won't help with processors as much, because of heat dissipation issues, but storage will benefit. However, the planar silicon scaling is what primarily enables cost reduction for production. I expect the (total device) density to continue to increase with the 3D tech, but cost will go up with capacity increases. Maybe not linearly though, because you don't have to pay for extra packaging.

lainga 8y ago

Hold on, now. You can't assume Brian identifies as a man.