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Well, seems pretty often to me? MPs didn't want Brexit. Voters did, now it's happening (maybe, unless the government blinks first in the MAD standoff the EU in

Well, seems pretty often to me? MPs didn't want Brexit. Voters did, now it's happening (maybe, unless the government blinks first in the MAD standoff the EU insists on). Voters wanted stricter immigration, even though many MPs are convinced immigration is a net positive. They are getting it. Voters refused to contemplate tax rises, or so it was believed, so reducing the deficit has been done primarily through spending cuts and the growing economy. Voters are obsessed with the NHS - just a few days ago there was an announcement of a huge pile of new money for it, wasn't there? Seems like whilst it can take time and of course politicians can pass laws nobody asked for, if you take the top 2-3 priorities of the voters at any point, the government is usually responding to them in some way.

pjc50 8y ago
> (voters wanted Brexit) .. according to Dominic Cummings, this was because they were promised a huge amount of money for the NHS. This has been re-announced by Theresa May with no real explanation of where it would come from. And now ... what exactly is happening? There's still a horrifying lack of confirmed detail. > Voters wanted stricter immigration ... They are getting it. Are they? Through which policy changes?
- repolfx 8y ago
  Are they? Through which policy changes? The "hostile environment" policy and promises that post-leaving, EU immigration will be controlled too.
  - pjc50 8y ago
    The hostile environment policy was popular right until the Windrush generation started getting deported as well. I really don't think people have any idea how hostile the system already is. What really worries me is that voters can't see the "flow" of immigration, they can only see the "level", and they're going to keep voting for more and more hostility so long as they keep seeing nonwhite faces or hearing people speaking Polish. Even if those people are in fact full British nationals.

pjc50 8y ago

> (voters wanted Brexit) .. according to Dominic Cummings, this was because they were promised a huge amount of money for the NHS. This has been re-announced by Theresa May with no real explanation of where it would come from. And now ... what exactly is happening? There's still a horrifying lack of confirmed detail. > Voters wanted stricter immigration ... They are getting it. Are they? Through which policy changes?

repolfx 8y ago
Are they? Through which policy changes? The "hostile environment" policy and promises that post-leaving, EU immigration will be controlled too.
- pjc50 8y ago
  The hostile environment policy was popular right until the Windrush generation started getting deported as well. I really don't think people have any idea how hostile the system already is. What really worries me is that voters can't see the "flow" of immigration, they can only see the "level", and they're going to keep voting for more and more hostility so long as they keep seeing nonwhite faces or hearing people speaking Polish. Even if those people are in fact full British nationals.