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Because it's not tenable and not desirable for any countries' laws to apply to the internet. Imagine what would happen if China decided that it made a law outl

Because it's not tenable and not desirable for any countries' laws to apply to the internet. Imagine what would happen if China decided that it made a law outlawing any and all mentions of the Tienanmen Square Massacre and decreed that because of that law, all websites which serve information to Chinese people should comply or face massive fines?

boomlinde 8y ago
I think there's some confusion here. IP laws currently do apply to the internet, but I'm not necessarily subject to the same laws as anyone else. The example makes no sense because it has nothing to do with IP. It is also dependent on jurisdiction. China has no power to implement global laws.
- AllegedAlec 8y ago
  > China has no power to implement global laws Apparently they have, because IP laws do, as you said, apply to the internet. > The example makes no sense because it has nothing to do with IP. It is also dependent on jurisdiction. The example was absurd by design. IP laws differ strongly per country. Which of those should the internet adhere to? All of them? This would not work, since some works which are protected by IP law in one country would not be by another country. Should it be decided by the country of the uploader? Or that of the downloader? Of maybe the country of the server where it's stored, or each countries' IP laws in which there are nodes it passes through as the data gets to its destination? There is no sensible and doable way to apply IP laws, or any countries' laws in general, to the entire internet. The entire idea is, to me, a non-starter from the get-go.
  - boomlinde 8y ago
    > Apparently they have, No. > because IP laws do, as you said, apply to the internet. IP laws that are different depending on where the peers are. > IP laws differ strongly per country. Which of those should the internet adhere to? The user will have to respect whichever laws apply to the user, the host will have to respect the laws that apply to the host, the business owner will have to respect the laws that apply to the business owner etc. It's not rocket science. You're talking about it as if it's some sort of hypothetical situation we have yet to solve, but this is how it works now.

boomlinde 8y ago

I think there's some confusion here. IP laws currently do apply to the internet, but I'm not necessarily subject to the same laws as anyone else. The example makes no sense because it has nothing to do with IP. It is also dependent on jurisdiction. China has no power to implement global laws.

AllegedAlec 8y ago
> China has no power to implement global laws Apparently they have, because IP laws do, as you said, apply to the internet. > The example makes no sense because it has nothing to do with IP. It is also dependent on jurisdiction. The example was absurd by design. IP laws differ strongly per country. Which of those should the internet adhere to? All of them? This would not work, since some works which are protected by IP law in one country would not be by another country. Should it be decided by the country of the uploader? Or that of the downloader? Of maybe the country of the server where it's stored, or each countries' IP laws in which there are nodes it passes through as the data gets to its destination? There is no sensible and doable way to apply IP laws, or any countries' laws in general, to the entire internet. The entire idea is, to me, a non-starter from the get-go.
- boomlinde 8y ago
  > Apparently they have, No. > because IP laws do, as you said, apply to the internet. IP laws that are different depending on where the peers are. > IP laws differ strongly per country. Which of those should the internet adhere to? The user will have to respect whichever laws apply to the user, the host will have to respect the laws that apply to the host, the business owner will have to respect the laws that apply to the business owner etc. It's not rocket science. You're talking about it as if it's some sort of hypothetical situation we have yet to solve, but this is how it works now.