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Association of Type 2 Diabetes with Titanium Dioxide Crystals in the Pancreas
- dvh 8y agoSample size: 8
- victor106 8y agoThe authors acknowledge this. From the conclusion:- “Being a pilot study, it requires sufficient expansion of sample sizes for statistical analysis as well as blinded studies.”
- ams6110 8y agoYeah, it's probably worthy of further research, but (nonprofessional opinion) my view is that obesity trends are much more likely the driver for increases in type II diabetes.
- taeric 8y agoThis is ignoring that there could be a feedback link between them. If there is a chemical imbalance that could lead to type 2, it probably does so by tricking the body to consume more. Such that the two problems could easily be linked.
- Aloha 8y agothis would only account for one form of Type II diabetes. It doesnt account for insulin resistance or the other issues found with it - many people who are type II have normal insulin levels
- jazoom 8y agoI'm a doctor and would say I'm quite familiar with T2DM, but I'm confused about what you're saying.
- super_mario 8y agoI think the OP is trying to argue that if TiO2 causes T2DM (by modulating production of insulin in the beta cells), it does not account for peripheral insulin resistance that is also present in T2DM. So, it could be that T2DM patients simply don't clear TiO2 from their pancreas as well as non T2DM patients (perhaps impaired kidney function). On another hand TiO2 is a "magnet" for other heavy metals. Researches are proposing using it in water filters to filter out other heavy metals because it attracts them so much. Consequently, having it accumulate in your tissue can't be good for long term health.
- irtheman 8y agoWell, that's better than the older view of T2s not having enough insulin. Try looking up hyperinsulinemia. Maybe 90+% of T2 and pre-diabetics. The prescribed medications are making the disease progressive and chronic. FYI, get tested because you might have it and not know your heading toward being T2 one day.
- jey 8y agoCool early stage work, but why is it noteworthy enough to be here? Has it even been replicated?
- rhacker 8y agoI might be remembering things wrong, but doesn't a lot of chewing gum have Titanium Dioxide as its whitening agent for teeth?
- wolfi1 8y agodon`t know for chewing gum, but it`s in tooth paste as well
- FrozenVoid 8y agoTitanium Dioxide is used practically everywhere. Its the "white coloring" in paint, food,skincare, medicine,plastics,paper, coatings,inks,etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide
- ratacat 8y agoIt's also widely used in milk, to cover up the blue color of milk from industrial milk production facilities where thousands of animals are locked up in big metal sheds with poor quality food. Strangely, they don't have to list the titanium dioxide in the ingredients.
- FrozenVoid 8y ago> Strangely, they don't have to list the titanium dioxide in the ingredients. Thats illegal, they have at least to mention "Artificial coloring"
- jlebrech 8y agothe dairy industry get's special dispensation
- ars 8y agoAccording to this, it has to be disclosed: https://www.worldrd.com/big-dairy-really-putting-microscopic-pieces-metal-food/ https://www.worldrd.com/big-dairy-really-putting-microscopic... Also it's only added to skim milk, ratacat post about industrial milk and whatever isn't true.
- Animats 8y agoThey should try testing NASA employees. NASA loves titanium dioxide white paint.
- londons_explore 8y agoIsn't nearly all paint mostly titanium dioxide?
- fredley 8y agoAny opaque, non-black (or very dark) paint, yes. You can add other pigments to paint, but if you want that paint to be opaque rather than translucent, you need to add titanium dioxide (or something that'll have the same effect).
- ams6110 8y agoRight -- previously lead carbonate was used, until the problems with that were understood.
- dogma1138 8y agoAll paint is based on white paint so.... Also Titanium Dioxide is in foods and many of them.
- tejtm 8y agoThis is because space is a vacuum which is a great insulator so heat builds up and titanium dioxide radiates well in the infrared.
- felixbraun 8y agoSince non-diabetics accumulate close to zero Titanium Dioxide and it is ubiquitous in our 'modern' environment, it seems more likely that diabetics have for some reason difficulties clearing these crystals?
- amvalo 8y agoMy first thought -- diabetes affects kidney function. The question is whether the same is found in type I diabetics.
- larkost 8y agoType I diabetes is an inability of the pancreas to produce insulin. In typical type II diabetes it is not a problem of production, but rather the uptake of the insulin is inhibited. Basically the body becomes resistant to the insulin signal.
- amvalo 8y agoMy point was that high blood sugar damages the kidneys, so if TiO2 in kidneys is an effect rather than cause of diabetes, we would see it in both type I and type II.
- pagutierrezn 8y agoThis is one of those comments why I enjoy HN. Thanks
- vfc1 8y agoIt looks it's a common ingredient for candy: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/scienceandfood/2016/04/12/titanium-dioxide-in-food/#.Wyt6ZlOFN60 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/scienceandfood/2016/04/12/... - "Titanium dioxide nanoparticles (TiO2) are widely used as a food additive and are consumed by millions of consumers on a daily basis, as manufacturers incorporate it into their food products. "
- andai 8y agoWorse, it's in most toothpaste. > Titanium dioxide found to cause pre-cancerous growths in 40% of mice https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/toothpaste-additive-e171-titanium-dioxide-food-products-cancer-cause-scientists-a7541956.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/toothpaste-additi...
- teekert 8y agoAt least you don't swallow that...
- coldtea 8y agoA person with a healthy diet probably swallows much more toothpaste (accidentally remnants flushed down etc) than candy.
- theothermkn 8y ago> It is unclear whether the product might have a similar effect in people, and the scientists said their findings “cannot be extrapolated to humans”. Cinnamon caused some kind of liver dysfunction (cancer, IIRC) in mice. I turns out that mice lacked a metabolic pathway for processing a byproduct of the breakdown of Cinnamon, a pathway that humans possess. Mouse models aren't perfect, so it's probably premature to use the value-laden word "worse" in relation to TiO2 in toothpaste.
- man2525 8y agoCeylon or Cassia cinnamon?
- pknopf 8y agoA friend tested me a while back and my bloog sugar was over 400. I changed my life habbits completely. I just got back from the doctor and my A1Cs are now 4.8! I'm so excited!
- enitihas 8y agoJust curious, what sort of changes did you make?
- pknopf 8y agoOnly drinks with zero sugar/carbs. Started with Atkins diet, now I'm little looser. Just limited carbs. Working out, mainly running. Intermittent fasting. Each day, I eat something small in the morning, maybe slim fast, maybe nuts, and one meal in the afternoon.
- harigov 8y agoWhat sort of changes? I was under the impression that you know when your blood sugar levels are so high. Did you lose any weight?
- gebeeson 8y agoI've never been able to tell when my blood sugar was high or normal just by how I feel alone.
- terminalcommand 8y agoTo a certain level you might not feel if your blood sugar is high or normal. But after 250 mg/dl, especially at 400 mg/dl you'll feel it. The most obvious symptom is fatigue and thirst, no matter how much you sleep you will feel exhausted all the time. You will want to drink a lot of water, you will urinate frequently. Your eyes will start to hurt. After being high for some time, your vision might get blurry, your eyes dry, you'll start vomiting. Also you could smell your urine, if it stinks like ammonia, your blood sugar levels are high. If your blood sugar levels are normal you feel healthy. I've been a T1 since I was 10 and this is my experience. The real problem is not noticing highs but noticing lows. Because low blood sugar is much more threatening than highs for the short term.
- Geee 8y agoIt's relevant that France just set a ban for Titanium Dioxide in food products: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/18/france-ban-e171-additive-found-sweets-pastries-may-pose-cancer/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/18/france-ban-e171-...
- LinuxBender 8y agoI can't find the article, but wasn't there also a doctor that was recently curing people (permanently) of type 2 by essentially having them fast for a dangerously long time and thus purging all the fat from their pancreas? The theory they were proving out was that the fat built up in the pancreas was tricking their body into seeing the wrong amounts of insulin. [ edit ] Adding link for Dr. Fung's research [1] as mentioned in a reply by SteveCoast [1] - https://idmprogram.com/fatty-pancreas-t2d-9/ https://idmprogram.com/fatty-pancreas-t2d-9/
- SteveCoast 8y agoDr Fung has been doing this for a long time, and it's not dangerous at all. My longest fast was for 14 days just water, though I wasn't diabetic. Fung has lots of articles on Medium and /r/fasting is a great resource. Fung and also Taubes books are great and point out he maddening simplicity, that diabetes is high insulin is high sugar intake and that we treat it with... higher insulin. It's insanity, and because we can't see the wood for the trees we have smart people go study things like how much titanium you have in your body rather than solving the actual problem of carb intake.
- samtho 8y ago> we have smart people go study things like how much titanium you have in your body rather than solving the actual problem of carb intake Why can't we have both? We have a lot of smart people and the more ideas we have go through the scientific process of becoming a recognized treatment, the better. It doesn't take an army of smart people to create solutions, just a few. It's drive and motivation to solve problems that's in limited supply.
- autokad 8y ago> "It's insanity, and because we can't see the wood for the trees we have smart people go study things like how much titanium you have in your body rather than solving the actual problem of carb intake." if we can reduce type 2 diabetes without reducing carb intake, that's a win.
- LinuxBender 8y ago
- RobertRoberts 8y agoJust saw this, may be relevant: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/diabetes-defeated-by-diet-new-fresh-food-prescriptions-beat-drugs.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/diabetes-defeated-by-diet-ne...
- kwhitefoot 8y ago> it constitutes the dominant light-scattering, that is, “white” component of indoor wall paints, drinks, foods, toothpastes, medications, cosmetics, paper, and plastics. I understand why TiO2 is used in paint and even in cosmetics but why should it be in anything that is eaten or in medicines? None of that needs to be shining white.
- OnlyRepliesToBS 8y agoPollution.