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It was a political opinion. People have different political opinions, even as CEOs.

by mongol 8y ago

dagenix 8y ago
He didn't just have an opinion. He acted on that opinion. In a way designed to harm some of his own employees. That action was publicly recorded. And its not just "some opinion". Its not like he preferred Turkey Club sandwiches to BLTs. He preferred that some of his own employees be denied basic human rights.
ambicapter 8y ago
Turns out politics has an effect on people's lives, who knew?
- TillE 8y ago
  It's utterly bizarre how so many people can view politics as if it were as value-neutral as supporting a football team, or as if it's all some high-minded abstract debate.
  - mongol 8y ago
    There is such a thing as respecting a differing opinion. I see more and more tendencies to view differing opinions as something that is simply not acceptable, even for opinions that have been ordinary just a short while back. That is bizarre to me.
    - dagenix 8y ago
      Not all opinions are the same. Some opinions are trivial. I think Wendy's produces a superior burger to Burger King. Someone else might disagree. We can have a friendly discussion about our points of view. Other opinions aren't so trivial. Take, for example, denying the right to marry to a whole segment of the population, a right that you yourself enjoy, for no reason whatsoever. Its kinda hard to have a friendly discussion between one group of people that are asking for basic rights for themselves and another group of people that are trying to specifically deny those rights, benefit themselves in no way, and have no good reason why. I'm not really sure why the people being denied those rights are supposed to just throw up their hands and accept that. And its not a right to be a CEO - its a privilege. Its a false moral equivalency to say that the privilege of being a CEO is somehow equivalent to the basic right to be treated equally. It doesn't really matter what people thought 10 years ago. Or 100. Recently isn't a proxy for right.
      - batteryhorse 8y ago
        It's neither a right, nor a privilege. It's a job. Was he doing a good job? I would say yes. Did Firefox prosper after he left? I would say no. User marketshare has gone down. I don't care about 'morality', I just want a good browser.
        dagenix 8y ago
        he was CEO for 11 days. I'm not quite sure how you can say he was doing a good job. As far as his technical chops, his qualifications are impeccable. And those qualifications have nothing to do with his terrible views. Thats a very different thing than discussing if he has the right stuff to lead a company and make decisions that impact the lives of many, many people.
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throwaway83839 8y ago
As shitty as I feel defending it, what if it was a religious opinion? I don't think we can have genuine, defensible political opinions so opposed to human rights.

It was a political opinion. People have different political opinions, even as CEOs.

by mongol 8y ago

It was a political opinion. People have different political opinions, even as CEOs.

He didn't just have an opinion. He acted on that opinion. In a way designed to harm some of his own employees. That action was publicly recorded. And its not just "some opinion". Its not like he preferred Turkey Club sandwiches to BLTs. He preferred that some of his own employees be denied basic human rights.

ambicapter 8y ago

Turns out politics has an effect on people's lives, who knew?

TillE 8y ago
It's utterly bizarre how so many people can view politics as if it were as value-neutral as supporting a football team, or as if it's all some high-minded abstract debate.
- mongol 8y ago
  There is such a thing as respecting a differing opinion. I see more and more tendencies to view differing opinions as something that is simply not acceptable, even for opinions that have been ordinary just a short while back. That is bizarre to me.
  - dagenix 8y ago
    Not all opinions are the same. Some opinions are trivial. I think Wendy's produces a superior burger to Burger King. Someone else might disagree. We can have a friendly discussion about our points of view. Other opinions aren't so trivial. Take, for example, denying the right to marry to a whole segment of the population, a right that you yourself enjoy, for no reason whatsoever. Its kinda hard to have a friendly discussion between one group of people that are asking for basic rights for themselves and another group of people that are trying to specifically deny those rights, benefit themselves in no way, and have no good reason why. I'm not really sure why the people being denied those rights are supposed to just throw up their hands and accept that. And its not a right to be a CEO - its a privilege. Its a false moral equivalency to say that the privilege of being a CEO is somehow equivalent to the basic right to be treated equally. It doesn't really matter what people thought 10 years ago. Or 100. Recently isn't a proxy for right.
    - batteryhorse 8y ago
      It's neither a right, nor a privilege. It's a job. Was he doing a good job? I would say yes. Did Firefox prosper after he left? I would say no. User marketshare has gone down. I don't care about 'morality', I just want a good browser.
      - dagenix 8y ago
        he was CEO for 11 days. I'm not quite sure how you can say he was doing a good job. As far as his technical chops, his qualifications are impeccable. And those qualifications have nothing to do with his terrible views. Thats a very different thing than discussing if he has the right stuff to lead a company and make decisions that impact the lives of many, many people.
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throwaway83839 8y ago

As shitty as I feel defending it, what if it was a religious opinion? I don't think we can have genuine, defensible political opinions so opposed to human rights.