By arguing that Elon is lying when he is only mis-estimating timelines, you are directly advocating maximum correctness always. Elon suggests a timeline of 6 mo

By arguing that Elon is lying when he is only mis-estimating timelines, you are directly advocating maximum correctness always. Elon suggests a timeline of 6 months for self driving, turns out it will be closer to 6 years but it will still be delivered. But as far as you are concerned this is hucksterism equivalent to selling people lethal monorail carriages. The deaths that have occurred have been due to people misusing the product, and one of those occurred in exactly the same situation as other fatalities involving vehicles being operated by attentive humans, with clearly define causes that have not been addressed by the maintainer of the roads. The reason it is hard for you to have honest discussion with “Muskovites” is that you are intentionally exaggerating every failure and distorting every fact you touch, and making every argument an ideological statement. You are the problem, not everyone else.