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>It doesn't count when So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time.

by PrimHelios 8y ago

downandout 8y ago
What exactly are you suggesting? That we simply open up the border?
- dang 8y ago
  Please stop using HN for political flamewar.
  - downandout 8y ago
    I’m not sure how I’ve done that. I was asking a question; I’m trying to understand a position that many seem to have (being in favor of illegal immigration) that seems unfathomable to me.
    - PrimHelios 8y ago
      The HN mods seem to have some form of issue with our disagreement and have downvoted and flagged this entire thread.
      - DoreenMichele 8y ago
        Just an FYI: Members can downvote and flag. Attributing that solely to the mods is inaccurate.
        PrimHelios 8y ago
        Occam's Razor. When the mod steps in at the same time as the entire thread is downvoted and flagged, that's more than a bit suspicious.
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        Well, I downvoted your above comment, in part because it unfairly accuses the mods of corruption on no real basis, basically. And I'm not a mod. So, on your side, you have some fancy term for "inference" to justify your ugly accusation. On my side, I have solid evidence that not all downvotes are from the mods because I know what I did. So there's that.
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  - PrimHelios 8y ago
    People disagreed, this isn't a fucking flamewar. This site allows literal misogyny, but two people having a heated disagreement is a fucking flamewar?
dang 8y ago
You crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. Please don't, regardless of how wrong someone else is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- PrimHelios 8y ago
  Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other. I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?
  - dang 8y ago
    Well, for starters, "So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time." is entirely uncivil by HN standards. So are "Grow up", "arguing with you is just a waste of time", and other things you've posted. Also, these comments are lacking in information other than that you're irritated, so they're unsubstantive in addition to uncivil. As we tell everyone, please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. It isn't hard, but it requires wanting to use the site as intended. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - PrimHelios 8y ago
      "Grow up" is uncivil but threads full of misogyny are fine Jesus fucking christ. Just fucking delete my account, you people are fucking despicable.
      - dang 8y ago
        That's a pretty nasty imputation so I don't want to let it go unanswered. Obviously "threads full of misogyny" are not fine. Equally obviously, other people behaving badly doesn't make it ok for you to.

>It doesn't count when So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time.

downandout 8y ago

What exactly are you suggesting? That we simply open up the border?

dang 8y ago
Please stop using HN for political flamewar.
- downandout 8y ago
  I’m not sure how I’ve done that. I was asking a question; I’m trying to understand a position that many seem to have (being in favor of illegal immigration) that seems unfathomable to me.
  - PrimHelios 8y ago
    The HN mods seem to have some form of issue with our disagreement and have downvoted and flagged this entire thread.
    - DoreenMichele 8y ago
      Just an FYI: Members can downvote and flag. Attributing that solely to the mods is inaccurate.
      - PrimHelios 8y ago
        Occam's Razor. When the mod steps in at the same time as the entire thread is downvoted and flagged, that's more than a bit suspicious.
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        Well, I downvoted your above comment, in part because it unfairly accuses the mods of corruption on no real basis, basically. And I'm not a mod. So, on your side, you have some fancy term for "inference" to justify your ugly accusation. On my side, I have solid evidence that not all downvotes are from the mods because I know what I did. So there's that.
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- PrimHelios 8y ago
  People disagreed, this isn't a fucking flamewar. This site allows literal misogyny, but two people having a heated disagreement is a fucking flamewar?

dang 8y ago

You crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. Please don't, regardless of how wrong someone else is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

PrimHelios 8y ago
Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other. I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?
- dang 8y ago
  Well, for starters, "So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time." is entirely uncivil by HN standards. So are "Grow up", "arguing with you is just a waste of time", and other things you've posted. Also, these comments are lacking in information other than that you're irritated, so they're unsubstantive in addition to uncivil. As we tell everyone, please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. It isn't hard, but it requires wanting to use the site as intended. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - PrimHelios 8y ago
    "Grow up" is uncivil but threads full of misogyny are fine Jesus fucking christ. Just fucking delete my account, you people are fucking despicable.
    - dang 8y ago
      That's a pretty nasty imputation so I don't want to let it go unanswered. Obviously "threads full of misogyny" are not fine. Equally obviously, other people behaving badly doesn't make it ok for you to.