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The argument I rebutted was that Salmon's quote (lie + wire = conviction) was incorrect. If you get the jury to vote "guilty", then you have proven guilt, even
by mchannon 8y ago
The argument I rebutted was that Salmon's quote (lie + wire = conviction) was incorrect.
If you get the jury to vote "guilty", then you have proven guilt, even if you have done so using zero logic or critical thinking skills, or provided them with falsehoods and misinformation. That's Salmon's point, and it's true.
In theory, and according to the law, wire fraud is not simply a lie plus a wire. In practice, that's exactly what wire fraud is. There shouldn't be a gulf between the two, but thanks to our lawmakers, judges, and US attorneys, there is.
- tptacek 8y agoEven that isn't true, as you should know, having taken a felony conviction to an appeals court. But it also has nothing to do with my argument. Since we're now several round trips into talking past each other, I'm going to abandon the thread here.