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A few hotels already have tablets pointing cameras at the room (including a recent Marriott I stayed at). This just adds more crap I have to unplug or disable.

A few hotels already have tablets pointing cameras at the room (including a recent Marriott I stayed at). This just adds more crap I have to unplug or disable. Lovely. I can't wait until we all find out these things have all been systematically rooted and collecting blackmail on folks. It's one thing to trust Amazon or Google, but now you also have to trust the hotel and its staff, the physical security of the device, and all the previous guests of the room.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>I can't wait until we all find out these things have all been systematically rooted and collecting blackmail on folks. Back in the day you had to be important to get that kind of treatment and usually only the FBI would do it.
- cptskippy 8y ago
  > Back in the day you had to be important to get that kind of treatment and usually only the FBI would do it. This what's known as the Democratization of technology. Now days everyone is important and receives equal treatment!
jonknee 8y ago
> It's one thing to trust Amazon or Google, but now you also have to trust the hotel and its staff, the physical security of the device, and all the previous guests of the room. With miniature cameras being widely available for years now what exactly is new?
- nvr219 8y ago
  It's more streamlined
  - jonknee 8y ago
    Hacking Alexa would be extremely valuable, why would you do that to listen on some random hotel rooms? I have to imagine the outdated phones they use are a lot easier to hack and are already in every single hotel room.
    - goldbeck 8y ago
      [citation needed]
      - natalyarostova 8y ago
        Citation: his imagination
- chimen 8y ago
  This pushes the acceptance much further. "It's ok to do this. Look! Everybody does it. Why are you always so paranoid? If you have nothing to hide why are you fighting it?!"
  - jonknee 8y ago
    Well it's not like this is a new platform designed for Marriott, it's an extremely popular product millions of people have in their homes and offices. It is already accepted.
    - dazc 8y ago
      People do stuff in hotels they wouldn't dream of doing at their homes or workplaces though?
    - dingaling 8y ago
      Objection, appeal to popularity "Millions" sounds overwhelming until expressed as a proportion of the population of the USA, Australasia, Canada and EU: just shy of a billion. These devices have been accepted and adopted by a small minority of people to whom they are available.
    - chopin 8y ago
      "People, eat shit! Billions of flies can't be wrong". Meme in Germany...
mseebach 8y ago
> It's one thing to trust Amazon or Google, but now you also have to trust the hotel and its staff, the physical security of the device, and all the previous guests of the room. You already had to do the physical trust thing. These devices are a new challenge because they could be remotely compromised.
dual_basis 8y ago
I mean, you already do have to trust the hotel staff and all previous occupants of the room. Do you sweep every hotel room for bugs?
- greenhatman 8y ago
  The difference is that if a bug is found it would be a big deal. They can now listen in and claim ignorance.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

>I can't wait until we all find out these things have all been systematically rooted and collecting blackmail on folks. Back in the day you had to be important to get that kind of treatment and usually only the FBI would do it.

cptskippy 8y ago
> Back in the day you had to be important to get that kind of treatment and usually only the FBI would do it. This what's known as the Democratization of technology. Now days everyone is important and receives equal treatment!

jonknee 8y ago

> It's one thing to trust Amazon or Google, but now you also have to trust the hotel and its staff, the physical security of the device, and all the previous guests of the room. With miniature cameras being widely available for years now what exactly is new?

nvr219 8y ago
It's more streamlined
- jonknee 8y ago
  Hacking Alexa would be extremely valuable, why would you do that to listen on some random hotel rooms? I have to imagine the outdated phones they use are a lot easier to hack and are already in every single hotel room.
  - goldbeck 8y ago
    [citation needed]
    - natalyarostova 8y ago
      Citation: his imagination
chimen 8y ago
This pushes the acceptance much further. "It's ok to do this. Look! Everybody does it. Why are you always so paranoid? If you have nothing to hide why are you fighting it?!"
- jonknee 8y ago
  Well it's not like this is a new platform designed for Marriott, it's an extremely popular product millions of people have in their homes and offices. It is already accepted.
  - dazc 8y ago
    People do stuff in hotels they wouldn't dream of doing at their homes or workplaces though?
  - dingaling 8y ago
    Objection, appeal to popularity "Millions" sounds overwhelming until expressed as a proportion of the population of the USA, Australasia, Canada and EU: just shy of a billion. These devices have been accepted and adopted by a small minority of people to whom they are available.
  - chopin 8y ago
    "People, eat shit! Billions of flies can't be wrong". Meme in Germany...

mseebach 8y ago

> It's one thing to trust Amazon or Google, but now you also have to trust the hotel and its staff, the physical security of the device, and all the previous guests of the room. You already had to do the physical trust thing. These devices are a new challenge because they could be remotely compromised.

dual_basis 8y ago

I mean, you already do have to trust the hotel staff and all previous occupants of the room. Do you sweep every hotel room for bugs?

greenhatman 8y ago
The difference is that if a bug is found it would be a big deal. They can now listen in and claim ignorance.