That's fair! And I'll concede that I actually don't know anyone outside of my own working group (we had standardized on Rails), and the people that I actually m

That's fair! And I'll concede that I actually don't know anyone outside of my own working group (we had standardized on Rails), and the people that I actually met at the annual Rails Conference, who are still talking about using Rails. Otherwise, the most prolific programmers I know personally that used Rails, have all moved onto other platforms at new jobs or for their new development projects. Mostly Go, modern JS frameworks (many of them), Python, and Kotlin.