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I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws? Having said that, GDPR ha

I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws? Having said that, GDPR has actually turned out to be a very well thought through piece of legislation - I actually agree with it's premises largely and the fact we can't take a database dump anymore and have full access to people's personal details is an extremely good thing IMO. How Facebook are in compliance with it I have no idea as it would seem impossible to justify a lot of their more intrusive/social features.

monsieurbanana 8y ago
Facebook doesn't need to justify it. All they need to do is send a notice to their users asking for consent. How many of them do will read what that entails, and how many of those would decide their privacy is more important for them than facebook?
- andy_ppp 8y ago
  What I mean is technical issues - searching an encrypted graph database has got to be very complicated!
- tom_mellior 8y ago
  My understanding is that consent is not sufficient. In addition, data collection must directly serve a legitimate business purpose. Though I guess Facebook has lawyers willing to argue that anything they do serves their core business.
  - mrmr1993 8y ago
    My reading of it was that you need either consent or a legitimate business purpose, not both.[0] [0]: Article 6(1), https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...
    - tom_mellior 8y ago
      Ah, yes. Agreed.
Kliment 8y ago
> I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws? Yes. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180531/00285739946/eu-parliament-members-play-hardball-terrible-copyright-policies-article-highlighting-sketchy-tactics-magically-disappears.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180531/00285739946/eu-pa...
- edwintorok 8y ago
  Wouldn't the "link tax" have a detrimental effect on a site's Pagerank? Lets say someone writes a blogpost on site X and links to site Y, now site Y wants you to pay them for the privilege of linking to them. The blogger might just decide not to link (or save the hassle and not even ask whether they can link without paying). Over time site Y's incoming links drops as nobody is willing to link to it anymore. Good luck with SEO under such rules, in fact it would be nice if Google then offered an easy way to filter out all the sites that require paying to link to them.

monsieurbanana 8y ago

Facebook doesn't need to justify it. All they need to do is send a notice to their users asking for consent. How many of them do will read what that entails, and how many of those would decide their privacy is more important for them than facebook?

andy_ppp 8y ago
What I mean is technical issues - searching an encrypted graph database has got to be very complicated!
tom_mellior 8y ago
My understanding is that consent is not sufficient. In addition, data collection must directly serve a legitimate business purpose. Though I guess Facebook has lawyers willing to argue that anything they do serves their core business.
- mrmr1993 8y ago
  My reading of it was that you need either consent or a legitimate business purpose, not both.[0] [0]: Article 6(1), https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...
  - tom_mellior 8y ago
    Ah, yes. Agreed.

Kliment 8y ago

> I wonder if any of these people have received campaign funding from entrenched industries that benefit from draconian copyright laws? Yes. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180531/00285739946/eu-parliament-members-play-hardball-terrible-copyright-policies-article-highlighting-sketchy-tactics-magically-disappears.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180531/00285739946/eu-pa...

edwintorok 8y ago
Wouldn't the "link tax" have a detrimental effect on a site's Pagerank? Lets say someone writes a blogpost on site X and links to site Y, now site Y wants you to pay them for the privilege of linking to them. The blogger might just decide not to link (or save the hassle and not even ask whether they can link without paying). Over time site Y's incoming links drops as nobody is willing to link to it anymore. Good luck with SEO under such rules, in fact it would be nice if Google then offered an easy way to filter out all the sites that require paying to link to them.