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Yes. Exactly.

by sebst 8y ago

Yes. Exactly.

rdlecler1 8y ago
And the whole law was enacted because of Google.... Let's have regulation for regulation's sake!
raverbashing 8y ago
But it's just not link, it's show a snippet (and potentially a title) (or you can link and replace every snippet with 'censored by the EU' or something - might be a good strategy for raising awareness)
- Filligree 8y ago
  Showing the snippet makes people more likely to click through, not less. If you aren't a copyright maximalist, how is that not good for both aggregator and news site? A better question is whether it's good for the user. Filter bubble, and all.
  - raverbashing 8y ago
    > Showing the snippet makes people more likely to click through, not less. If you aren't a copyright maximalist, how is that not good for both aggregator and news site? Exactly. But publishers still think they're in the 20th century
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    This isn't true if you realize what sort of "snippets" they are trying to deal with. Google has been scraping content for Knowledge Graph, and offering up "the answers" so that users don't click through any links. So Google rips off other companies' content, and has basically said "if you don't like it, feel free to block Google with robots.txt and get delisted from search". So Google has left the option that sites either give Google their content for free, and go out of business, or get delisted from search entirely, and go out of business. https://theoutline.com/post/1399/how-google-ate-celebritynetworth-com?zd=1&zi=dyskv4zt https://theoutline.com/post/1399/how-google-ate-celebritynet... is a pretty good example of why this is happening.
    - detaro 8y ago
      I've literally never seen one of those knowledge-graph snippets relating to current news? Google News now has stopped showing teaser texts for news for some publishers after a similar German law was passed, but "surprisingly" the majority of publishers preferred to allow Google to show teasers... (Which is why there's now talk of forbidding publishers to grant that permission for free)

Yes. Exactly.

by sebst 8y ago

Yes. Exactly.

rdlecler1 8y ago

And the whole law was enacted because of Google.... Let's have regulation for regulation's sake!

raverbashing 8y ago

But it's just not link, it's show a snippet (and potentially a title) (or you can link and replace every snippet with 'censored by the EU' or something - might be a good strategy for raising awareness)

Filligree 8y ago
Showing the snippet makes people more likely to click through, not less. If you aren't a copyright maximalist, how is that not good for both aggregator and news site? A better question is whether it's good for the user. Filter bubble, and all.
- raverbashing 8y ago
  > Showing the snippet makes people more likely to click through, not less. If you aren't a copyright maximalist, how is that not good for both aggregator and news site? Exactly. But publishers still think they're in the 20th century
- ocdtrekkie 8y ago
  This isn't true if you realize what sort of "snippets" they are trying to deal with. Google has been scraping content for Knowledge Graph, and offering up "the answers" so that users don't click through any links. So Google rips off other companies' content, and has basically said "if you don't like it, feel free to block Google with robots.txt and get delisted from search". So Google has left the option that sites either give Google their content for free, and go out of business, or get delisted from search entirely, and go out of business. https://theoutline.com/post/1399/how-google-ate-celebritynetworth-com?zd=1&zi=dyskv4zt https://theoutline.com/post/1399/how-google-ate-celebritynet... is a pretty good example of why this is happening.
  - detaro 8y ago
    I've literally never seen one of those knowledge-graph snippets relating to current news? Google News now has stopped showing teaser texts for news for some publishers after a similar German law was passed, but "surprisingly" the majority of publishers preferred to allow Google to show teasers... (Which is why there's now talk of forbidding publishers to grant that permission for free)