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I’m sorry but this is not true. The depiction of Turkey by the french media is just false. This is NOT something normal. In fact, for me, the Turkish education

by _r26q 8y ago

I’m sorry but this is not true. The depiction of Turkey by the french media is just false. This is NOT something normal. In fact, for me, the Turkish education system works better than the French education. And Islam is not part of the education at school in Turkey. School in Turkey is about actually learning and carring about each other. (I am a Turkish-French. I live in both coutries.)

bariscimen 8y ago
"In fact, for me, the Turkish education system works better than the French education." lol. stop lying
- buraksarica 8y ago
  Do you have opportunity to compare? I mean he/she at least is bi-national. Why do you call someone liar on his/her own ideas?
  - bariscimen 8y ago
    Yes I've. And you don't have to be a 'bi-national'. - 'And Islam is not part of the education at school in Turkey.' statement is not true also. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-erdogan-education/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-e... https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/islam-ottoman-erdogan-new-core-of-turkey39s-education-system https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/islam-ottoman-er... https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-news-coup-analysis-curriculum-history-istanbul/ https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-new... -'Why do you call someone liar on his/her own ideas?' We all know in Turkey, government and their 'AK Trolls'(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls) are just manipulating people with disinformation. And this guy/girl is just one of them, not more or less.
- dang 8y ago
  Attacking someone else like this is against HN's rules and will get your account banned, so could you please not do it here? Instead, please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and post civilly or not at all.
  - bariscimen 8y ago
    Sorry, I did not know the rule about 'lying'. I just added some arguments on this thread.
mrighele 8y ago
What is not normal about the parent said ? That jihad is now part of the curriculum and evolution is not ? Not a lie, if you don't like french media you can check turkish sources [1]. Turkish academics agree that it is not a lie [2]. According to my turkish friends in the past the quality of education was quite good but has been steadily going down [5] thanks to the ruling party promoting religious schools for many years [3]. Islam _is_ part of education at school in Turkey [4]. [1] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-education-ministry-reveals-new-curriculum-evolution-out-jihad-in-115673 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-education-ministry-... [2] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academics-tell-ministry-that-evolution-theory-excluded-from-curriculum-only-in-saudi-arabia-110307 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academics-tell-mini... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/turkeys-religious-schools-rise-as-erdogan-exerts-sway.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/turkeys-reli... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/turkeys-atheists-and-religious-minorities-join-forces-to-protest-religious-instruction-in-schools/2015/02/18/6c8d7e58-b791-11e4-bc30-a4e75503948a_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/turkeys-ath... [5] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-education-problems-revealed-in-oecd-wide-education-test-pisa-106997 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-education-problems-...

by _r26q 8y ago

bariscimen 8y ago

"In fact, for me, the Turkish education system works better than the French education." lol. stop lying

buraksarica 8y ago
Do you have opportunity to compare? I mean he/she at least is bi-national. Why do you call someone liar on his/her own ideas?
- bariscimen 8y ago
  Yes I've. And you don't have to be a 'bi-national'. - 'And Islam is not part of the education at school in Turkey.' statement is not true also. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-erdogan-education/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/turkey-e... https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/islam-ottoman-erdogan-new-core-of-turkey39s-education-system https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/islam-ottoman-er... https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-news-coup-analysis-curriculum-history-istanbul/ https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-new... -'Why do you call someone liar on his/her own ideas?' We all know in Turkey, government and their 'AK Trolls'(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls) are just manipulating people with disinformation. And this guy/girl is just one of them, not more or less.
dang 8y ago
Attacking someone else like this is against HN's rules and will get your account banned, so could you please not do it here? Instead, please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and post civilly or not at all.
- bariscimen 8y ago
  Sorry, I did not know the rule about 'lying'. I just added some arguments on this thread.

mrighele 8y ago

What is not normal about the parent said ? That jihad is now part of the curriculum and evolution is not ? Not a lie, if you don't like french media you can check turkish sources [1]. Turkish academics agree that it is not a lie [2]. According to my turkish friends in the past the quality of education was quite good but has been steadily going down [5] thanks to the ruling party promoting religious schools for many years [3]. Islam _is_ part of education at school in Turkey [4]. [1] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-education-ministry-reveals-new-curriculum-evolution-out-jihad-in-115673 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-education-ministry-... [2] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academics-tell-ministry-that-evolution-theory-excluded-from-curriculum-only-in-saudi-arabia-110307 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-academics-tell-mini... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/turkeys-religious-schools-rise-as-erdogan-exerts-sway.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/turkeys-reli... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/turkeys-atheists-and-religious-minorities-join-forces-to-protest-religious-instruction-in-schools/2015/02/18/6c8d7e58-b791-11e4-bc30-a4e75503948a_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/turkeys-ath... [5] http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-education-problems-revealed-in-oecd-wide-education-test-pisa-106997 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-education-problems-...