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Yeah, defense as in defending an argument. > And seriously, iPhone isn't just a phone, seriously? Not sure how old you are, but if you want just a phone look

Yeah, defense as in defending an argument. > And seriously, iPhone isn't just a phone, seriously? Not sure how old you are, but if you want just a phone look at feature phones, seriously ;)

Fins 8y ago
Certainly older than Tesla. Or Apple, for that matter. By the way, any feature phone is much better than iPhone as... a phone, you know, to call people and stuff. Even as smartphones Apple products aren't unicorn magic. Neither are Teslas. Riding in one, they can barely compete with a mid-range Hyundai.
- abc_lisper 8y ago
  > Even as smartphones Apple products aren't unicorn magic There is no electronics product in history that sold more than the iPhone. I don't know what meets your high standards.
  - Fins 8y ago
    By that logic, McDonald's burgers are so magic, Jobs would have dropped his reality distortion field and ran home crying. And Osteria Franciscana must be selling complete crap because they will never achieve sales not only of McD but even of White Castle!
    - abc_lisper 8y ago
      > By that logic, McDonald's burgers are so magic, Not really, burgers are not electronic products.
      - Fins 8y ago
        But they are selling very well! If you want something computer-related, Windows is clearly the greatest, bestest OS of all times. Electronics? Bose must sound really well. Etc., etc.
        abc_lisper 8y ago
        Come on, that is not what I mean. Is there anything you like and appreciate?
        Fins 8y ago
        Lots of things, it's just Apple (or Tesla) do not happen to be among them, I want something that actually has real advantages/benefits.
        abc_lisper 8y ago
        List em. I want to see what your standards are.
        Fins 8y ago
        For which ones? Like smartphones I can install any software I want on, or cars that do not actively try to kill me? Or we could just settle on a car that has build standard slightly higher than a used Yugo (although Tesla might need to stretch quite a bit to rise to Yugo quality level)?

Yeah, defense as in defending an argument. > And seriously, iPhone isn't just a phone, seriously? Not sure how old you are, but if you want just a phone look at feature phones, seriously ;)

Fins 8y ago

Certainly older than Tesla. Or Apple, for that matter. By the way, any feature phone is much better than iPhone as... a phone, you know, to call people and stuff. Even as smartphones Apple products aren't unicorn magic. Neither are Teslas. Riding in one, they can barely compete with a mid-range Hyundai.

abc_lisper 8y ago
> Even as smartphones Apple products aren't unicorn magic There is no electronics product in history that sold more than the iPhone. I don't know what meets your high standards.
- Fins 8y ago
  By that logic, McDonald's burgers are so magic, Jobs would have dropped his reality distortion field and ran home crying. And Osteria Franciscana must be selling complete crap because they will never achieve sales not only of McD but even of White Castle!
  - abc_lisper 8y ago
    > By that logic, McDonald's burgers are so magic, Not really, burgers are not electronic products.
    - Fins 8y ago
      But they are selling very well! If you want something computer-related, Windows is clearly the greatest, bestest OS of all times. Electronics? Bose must sound really well. Etc., etc.
      - abc_lisper 8y ago
        Come on, that is not what I mean. Is there anything you like and appreciate?
        Fins 8y ago
        Lots of things, it's just Apple (or Tesla) do not happen to be among them, I want something that actually has real advantages/benefits.
        abc_lisper 8y ago
        List em. I want to see what your standards are.
        Fins 8y ago
        For which ones? Like smartphones I can install any software I want on, or cars that do not actively try to kill me? Or we could just settle on a car that has build standard slightly higher than a used Yugo (although Tesla might need to stretch quite a bit to rise to Yugo quality level)?