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The fun part about this question is that it's always asked as if it's crazy talk to suggest there could be variation in how different crimes are addressed.... w
by wwweston 8y ago
The fun part about this question is that it's always asked as if it's crazy talk to suggest there could be variation in how different crimes are addressed.... when in fact, there's quite a latitude in how we handle different violations of the law. Or even individual cases.
Not every crime is prosecuted and not every conviction means prison. Why should immigration be different?
(And that's before we even get to the question of reports where people presenting themselves for asylum -- a legal process -- have been treated as if they're breaking the law. Or ways in which recent policy seems to have been tweaked to otherwise gum up legal immigration avenues.)
- koolba 8y ago> Not every crime is prosecuted and not every conviction means prison. Why should immigration be different? Prosecution of illegal immigration is a bit special as anything short of full enforcement is arguably open borders. It’s unreasonably to expect an illegal entrant to show up for a court date. They’ve already demonstrated they won’t respect the law.
- fzeroracer 8y agoWhat makes this special versus literally every other case in America? For example, there are people that have gotten away with driving drunk and killing people. Does that mean we've effectively legalized drunk driving? What kind of twisted logic is it that if we don't prosecute every single illegal immigrant to the absolute full extent that it results in open borders? Why should people seeking asylum be treated worse than murderers and killers?
- koolba 8y agoThe crime isn’t seeking asylum. It’s entering the country illegally. The asylum part is irrelevant for anything beyond creating a sob story for marketing politically divisive messaging.
- noobermin 8y agoAsylum is not entering the country illegally, it has a legal process. It is not a non-sequitur, it is the topic under discussion.
- factsaresacred 8y agoAnd asylum is done at a port of entry, not sneaking through the desert.
- tomjakubowski 8y agoEven when it is done at a port of entry, you may be locked up for six months and have your one year-old son taken 1,500 miles away. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/migrant-seeking-asylum-says-his-toddler-was-taken-away-at-the-u-s-border https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/migrant-seeking-asylum-say...
- cr1895 8y agohttps://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/ob... You may apply for asylum regardless of how you entered or your current status.
- burfog 8y agoSure, but there are essentially no legitimate claims in the USA because of the requirements for asylum: 1. You are being persecuted for something like religion or ethnicity. Poverty and ordinary gang violence doesn't count. 2. You must declare asylum in the first safe country you reach. Given that both Canada and Mexico are considered safe countries, it is extremely difficult to meet this requirement. You'd pretty much have to sneak onto an airplane without being caught.