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You could still make it open source but craft the license in a way to prevent redistribution

by VMG 16y ago

davidw 16y ago
> You could still make it open source but craft the license in a way to prevent redistribution Then it would not be open source.
- kleiba 16y ago
  Of course it would, but it would not be free software.
  - davidw 16y ago
    "open source" has a precise definition, and doesn't just mean "you get the source code": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition
    - kleiba 16y ago
      I guess my wording wasn't the best. My point was that source code which is available, but only under a non-permissive license, would certainly not be considered free. Some people, first and foremost rms, dismiss the term "open source" completely for missing the point. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZZraHN0Yg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZZraHN0Yg
- narag 16y ago
  There are certain clauses that don't affect the definition of a program as open source, but would prevent it to be included by, let's say, Debian. I'm thinking on the old BSD license or the branding problem of Firefox.
  - davidw 16y ago
    Debian includes the Firefox code, though. You can certainly say "you can redistribute my code, but not call it XYZ if you've modified it", that still lies within the realm of open source.
    - narag 16y ago
      That was my point. It's open source and still it's not distributed under the Firefox brand, so users won't fill bugs in Mozilla's bugtrack.
- VMG 16y ago
  Right, though I didn't mean the capitalized Open Source but "you can still share the source code" and thereby still accept patches for example. You could also allow forks as long as they use a different name that your project.
  - rmc 16y ago
    If you allow forks under a different name, then someone will put it into Linux distros with that name. Just look at Firefox/IceWeasel. Or CentOS

You could still make it open source but craft the license in a way to prevent redistribution

by VMG 16y ago

You could still make it open source but craft the license in a way to prevent redistribution

> You could still make it open source but craft the license in a way to prevent redistribution Then it would not be open source.

kleiba 16y ago
Of course it would, but it would not be free software.
- davidw 16y ago
  "open source" has a precise definition, and doesn't just mean "you get the source code": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition
  - kleiba 16y ago
    I guess my wording wasn't the best. My point was that source code which is available, but only under a non-permissive license, would certainly not be considered free. Some people, first and foremost rms, dismiss the term "open source" completely for missing the point. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZZraHN0Yg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZZraHN0Yg
narag 16y ago
There are certain clauses that don't affect the definition of a program as open source, but would prevent it to be included by, let's say, Debian. I'm thinking on the old BSD license or the branding problem of Firefox.
- davidw 16y ago
  Debian includes the Firefox code, though. You can certainly say "you can redistribute my code, but not call it XYZ if you've modified it", that still lies within the realm of open source.
  - narag 16y ago
    That was my point. It's open source and still it's not distributed under the Firefox brand, so users won't fill bugs in Mozilla's bugtrack.
VMG 16y ago
Right, though I didn't mean the capitalized Open Source but "you can still share the source code" and thereby still accept patches for example. You could also allow forks as long as they use a different name that your project.
- rmc 16y ago
  If you allow forks under a different name, then someone will put it into Linux distros with that name. Just look at Firefox/IceWeasel. Or CentOS