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>Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves Meanwhile uber-violent and hyper-sexualized mass-market m

>Neither rednecks nor hippies have any significant influence on how an average white american behaves Meanwhile uber-violent and hyper-sexualized mass-market movies, outright pornography, and death metal are largely produced by white people/entities. Should we discuss the influence they have on how ”average american whites” behave? For that matter, much of "gangsta rap" has been produced by white-owned entities. In short, you provided the "four cornerstones of gangsta rap music". For each, we could just as easily plug in widely consumed, top-grossing films or other products of "white culture". Meanwhile, back in the real-world, mass shootings seem to be the near-exclusive purview of white men. Shall we also opine on the destructiveness of white culture based on that? The point is that racist generalizations don't help anyone.

gspetr 8y ago
Mass shootings are insignificant in the total amount of shootings. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states 2016: 38,658 2015: 36,247 2014: 33,599 2013: 33,636 2012: 33,563 2011: 32,351 2010: 31,672 2009: 31,347 2008: 31,593 Which year have mass shootings by whites amounted to at least 1% of total gun deaths? As for Death Metal bands, how many of the performers in this genre have been arrested for gun-related crimes? How many were killed by guns and went on to achieve cult status? > are largely produced by white people/entities. Jewish, not white. Jewish culture is distinct from generic white culture. You can get away with a lot with Jewish privilege, like Bill Maher's casual N-word use on television. A random white John Doe's career would have been done right there.
- scabarott 8y ago
  I think you're completely failing to get the point. It's not about statistics, it's about perception (I wonder what percentage of Black Americans actually listen to rap music or have anything to do with 'gangsta' culture). In this case your perceptions are warped because of your own biases. I'm also glad the poster above brought up the example of mass-market movies. Porn is probably another good example of something that no one conflates with 'white culture' even if there are seemingly good reasons to. There are many other aspects of mass culture in the west that are viewed very negatively elsewhere. The poster certainly makes a good point about mass shootings as well, whatever the percentages are they certainly make a huge bang on public perception. We can argue stats all day but what constitutes 'good' culture or 'bad' culture is your own subjective opinion and your (racial) bias makes you blind to one and hyper-sensitive about others edit - Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from. edit - I just took a look through your profile and now I'm not surprised at all. A very common theme emerges lol. You can disregard everything I said above since it won't make sense to you either way
  - truthisunpc 8y ago
    "Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from." You are talking about a genetic reality, Jews are different than most europeans because they partly originate in the middle east and were largely genetically isolated. If you believe in evolution that means they also evolved a different brain structure. They claim to be white when it is convenient.
  - gspetr 8y ago
    My great grandma was jewish. I'm not white, I'm a minority in the country of my birth. Do you have any arguments or are these ad hominems[0] all you got? [0] http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
    - scabarott 8y ago
      "Do you even have arguments..." Can you even read? Go away race troll. Anyone can look through your comment history and see what you are. Not even American pffft.
      - dang 8y ago
        We ban accounts that attack others like this, regardless of how wrong someone else may be. You may not owe the other person better, but you definitely owe this community better if you want to keep posting here. Please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and please don't do this again.
        scabarott 8y ago
        Apologies. I don't usually lose it like that online but this person is an obvious troll. I like that HN is one of the more civil places online and don't intend to be the one to spoil it. * Also please monitor this user's posts. He has a history of posting fact-free racially inflammatory comments that would be more at home on a forum like 4chan. It would be nice if someone kept an eye on this account. A few examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16071344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16071344 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jogjayr&next=17447802 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jogjayr&next=1744780... https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=gspetr&next=16069082 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=gspetr&next=16069082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15624778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15624778

gspetr 8y ago

Mass shootings are insignificant in the total amount of shootings. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states 2016: 38,658 2015: 36,247 2014: 33,599 2013: 33,636 2012: 33,563 2011: 32,351 2010: 31,672 2009: 31,347 2008: 31,593 Which year have mass shootings by whites amounted to at least 1% of total gun deaths? As for Death Metal bands, how many of the performers in this genre have been arrested for gun-related crimes? How many were killed by guns and went on to achieve cult status? > are largely produced by white people/entities. Jewish, not white. Jewish culture is distinct from generic white culture. You can get away with a lot with Jewish privilege, like Bill Maher's casual N-word use on television. A random white John Doe's career would have been done right there.

scabarott 8y ago
I think you're completely failing to get the point. It's not about statistics, it's about perception (I wonder what percentage of Black Americans actually listen to rap music or have anything to do with 'gangsta' culture). In this case your perceptions are warped because of your own biases. I'm also glad the poster above brought up the example of mass-market movies. Porn is probably another good example of something that no one conflates with 'white culture' even if there are seemingly good reasons to. There are many other aspects of mass culture in the west that are viewed very negatively elsewhere. The poster certainly makes a good point about mass shootings as well, whatever the percentages are they certainly make a huge bang on public perception. We can argue stats all day but what constitutes 'good' culture or 'bad' culture is your own subjective opinion and your (racial) bias makes you blind to one and hyper-sensitive about others edit - Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from. edit - I just took a look through your profile and now I'm not surprised at all. A very common theme emerges lol. You can disregard everything I said above since it won't make sense to you either way
- truthisunpc 8y ago
  "Also by making that distinction btw 'jewish' and 'white' culture you're very plainly showing where you're coming from." You are talking about a genetic reality, Jews are different than most europeans because they partly originate in the middle east and were largely genetically isolated. If you believe in evolution that means they also evolved a different brain structure. They claim to be white when it is convenient.
- gspetr 8y ago
  My great grandma was jewish. I'm not white, I'm a minority in the country of my birth. Do you have any arguments or are these ad hominems[0] all you got? [0] http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
  - scabarott 8y ago
    "Do you even have arguments..." Can you even read? Go away race troll. Anyone can look through your comment history and see what you are. Not even American pffft.
    - dang 8y ago
      We ban accounts that attack others like this, regardless of how wrong someone else may be. You may not owe the other person better, but you definitely owe this community better if you want to keep posting here. Please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and please don't do this again.
      - scabarott 8y ago
        Apologies. I don't usually lose it like that online but this person is an obvious troll. I like that HN is one of the more civil places online and don't intend to be the one to spoil it. * Also please monitor this user's posts. He has a history of posting fact-free racially inflammatory comments that would be more at home on a forum like 4chan. It would be nice if someone kept an eye on this account. A few examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16071344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16071344 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jogjayr&next=17447802 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jogjayr&next=1744780... https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=gspetr&next=16069082 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=gspetr&next=16069082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15624778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15624778