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What made you think that you were entitled to something that you were supposed to receive on a date which was later than the date on which you resigned?
by sigfubar 8y ago
What made you think that you were entitled to something that you were supposed to receive on a date which was later than the date on which you resigned?
- drewg123 8y agoI resigned effective the 2nd of a month, and the promo was effective the 1st of the month. See above "resignation (slated to be effective after the promo)". So the resignation was scheduled for the day after the promo. I actually stayed an extra week to receive the promo.
- sigfubar 8y agoYou should have become a lawyer.
- RandomInteger4 8y agoI'm not going to lie; that type of thing -- resigning right after getting promoted -- seems like something from some alternate reality fantasy world.
- Arainach 8y agoWhy? Top performers are poached all the time. Plenty of people do excellent work in jobs they may not love. Both promotions and bonuses are usually tied to performance review cycles, and right after bonuses vest is the most popular time to leave.
- AdrianB1 8y agoI have an ex-colleague that was promoted 2 weeks after she resigned, just days before she left the country. The announcements came in the right order, first leaving the company and later being promoted. It puzzled lots of people, but this stuff happens.
- toomanybeersies 8y agoIt is entirely possible they weren't planning on getting promoted. I was due for a performance review about a week before I handed my notice in at my old job. The review didn't happen because my boss was incapable of communicating with his employees and actually scheduling appointments with them, but had it happened, I was fully prepared to push for a payrise, even though it would only be a couple of dollars an hour, and for only 3 weeks. You wouldn't turn down a promotion because you know you're about to hand your notice in. You act like everything is normal and you're going to be working at the company for the foreseeable future, right until the day you hand your notice in, which should be at the minimum notice period. Otherwise what would happen if you decline a promotion, then your new job offer falls through? You'd be left looking like a prize dick.
- Spooky23 8y agoI had a similar thing happen, except the company was acquired and we thought we were being laid off. 30 days after I started with my new employer, I received notice of being equated to a higher rank in the new company, and a very significant stock grant. Too late though. :)
- patmcguire 8y agoIt's not that uncommon - promotion takes so long and has so many moving parts - you might as well interview somewhere else, since if it doesn't succeed you'll just be doing the whole thing again in six months.
- kamaal 8y agoOne manager told me, he never tries to promote job hoppers no matter how well they perform. They don't stay, and you end up wasting a perfectly valid promotion while some one who would stick longer with you could have got it.
- monksy 8y agoWouldn't that give incentive to not stay?
- ironjunkie 8y agoexcept that this doesn't work in a high demand market such as the Bay area right now! Your old manager may have said that to encourage you to stay, but at the end of the day he will promote whoever needs to be promoted in order for that person not to leave. It is all very simple offer and demand at the end of the day. I was once in a company where the CEO liked to brag that in this company everyone is fairly paid in regards to their competences. You can guess what happened next, we went to have a couple beers with colleagues one evening and started talking about salaries. We realized that we had salaries that didn't really match what the CEO was pretending. The laws of the market are simply too strong, you will always need to sometime pay someone a lot because of circumstances or because that person had another offer to match. At the end of the day, companies benefit a lot from information asymmetry (they know everyone's salary, but you know nothing). They can claim a lot of things without you having the ability to verify it.
- s73v3r_ 8y agoDoesn't that exacerbate the problem?
- brett40324 8y ago> somehow cancelled the promo via some automated system Maybe someone just unassigned your employee id to the role, because in reality you weren't actually taking the job!
- paulddraper 8y agoYour story is inconsistent? > I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective If I get sick before my insurance is effective...I don't get my coverage. If I resign before my raise is effective...I don't get my raise.
- jpatokal 8y agoThe point here is not the raise, but the promotion itself. It's leverage for joining other large companies ("I was a Senior SWE at Google, so you'll need to offer me a Staff SWE role"), and as the OP notes, it lets them come back to the new level without having to go through the promo gauntlet again.
- elygre 8y agoIf you cancel the insurance effective from next month, you have coverage until the cancellation date.
- paulddraper 8y agoExactly. If you resign before your insurance coverage monthly renewal is effective, you don't get your insurance renewed. All of this is what "effective" means.
- elygre 8y agoMaybe we disagree on the sequence? As I understand it, it goes like this: 1) Employee gets promotion, effective in the future (at #3) 2) Employee resigns, to be effective after promotion (at #4) 3) Promotion is to be effective at this date 4) Resignation is to be effective at this date In my understanding, the employee's resignation is to be effective after the promotion it to be effective, so that the they would resign with the new/promoted level. I understand the surprise.
- paulddraper 8y ago"I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective" I had interpreted that as being resignation effective before the promotion. But I was probably wrong.
- megy 8y agoYou didn't answer the question at all.
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- phyzome 8y agoA promotion can also be a way of acknowledging an existing reality.
- koko775 8y agoBecause large companies give the promos as trailing indicators of performance, meaning that to be promoted requires an acknowledgment of prior sustained performance at that level. Entitlement to the level is actually accurate and above board.